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[UnluckyCharms]

On July 12, 2018 at 9:45 AM, SmootsDaddy89 said:

Then why the fug would you be GOING TO A HIGHER END RESTAURANT TO BEGIN WITH?

"Listen feller, I don't care about that, just bring me a big gulp of mr pibb and a big mac. I don't even know what cah-vee-arrrr is anywho."

Because its what I can afford and I want a higher quality product that isn't dependent on how much money I give someone to bring my food to my table. If you're going to a higher end restaurant and can't order for yourself because you don't understand whats on the menu then you don't belong there either way. Tipping is so horribly old fashioned. Just pay someone a normal wage instead of putting the responsibility on the diner to make up a fast food workers salary.

[MadHatter]

3 hours ago, UnluckyCharms said:

Because its what I can afford and I want a higher quality product that isn't dependent on how much money I give someone to bring my food to my table. If you're going to a higher end restaurant and can't order for yourself because you don't understand whats on the menu then you don't belong there either way. Tipping is so horribly old fashioned. Just pay someone a normal wage instead of putting the responsibility on the diner to make up a fast food workers salary.

You still haven’t figured it out though.

You will end up paying the same amount under the current methodology as you would under raising salaries and eliminating tips.....the increased labor costs will just be added to the price of the food.

Really easy concept to grasp.

[UnluckyCharms]

3 hours ago, MadHatter said:

You still haven’t figured it out though.

You will end up paying the same amount under the current methodology as you would under raising salaries and eliminating tips.....the increased labor costs will just be added to the price of the food.

Really easy concept to grasp.

Besides the numerous reasons why tipping is outdated and should be done away with, I have an issue with being responsible for someone else's wage. It is not about the cost or paying less, it is the principle of tipping. By definition a tip is a reward for good service. It should not be a paycheck and its not my responsibility to pay a workers paycheck. If you want to raise prices or include a service fee then do so but a consumer giving workers money for carrying food 25 feet is dumb. Giving people a reward for doing their job well is a different story. I tip my barber after his 40 dollar flat rate when the cut is good and if it is not then I don't.The same should apply to the fast food industry. If the service I receive is extraordinary(it rarely is) then my waiter gets a modest tip. Either way whether or not a waiter gets a livable wage shouldn't be dependent on the goodwill of a stranger. Just pay them a minimum wage like everyone else.

 

 

Really easy concept to grasp.

[tiger7_88]

3 minutes ago, UnluckyCharms said:

Besides the numerous reasons why tipping is outdated and should be done away with, I have an issue with being responsible for someone else's wage.

So when you buy your PBR and smokes every weekend at the corner store and vape shop, you don't think you're paying for the shop employee's wages?

4 minutes ago, UnluckyCharms said:

Really easy concept to grasp.

Apparently not.

[UnluckyCharms]

2 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

So when you buy your PBR and smokes every weekend at the corner store and vape shop, you don't think you're paying for the shop employee's wages?

Apparently not.

Read the next sentence kiddo 

 

 

It is not about the cost or paying less, it is the principle of tipping.

[cookinbrak]

When they find out you're a bad tipper...

 

[micnificent28]

On 7/13/2018 at 7:47 PM, tiger7_88 said:

Many of us in this forum (maybe even most) have been or currently are college students.

If you're struggling making ends meet as a college student and you think you "deserve" some fine dining experiences, get a more financially capable significant-other who can afford it.  

What you "deserve" is what you can afford.  God only knows, ramen noodles ain't just a funny joke to say about the college experience, its fugging REALITY.  Along with generic mac-and-cheese from a box.  You ever had a margarine sandwich?  I have. 

Hell, back in the day (WAY back in the day) when I was in college, the Burger King a block away from my apartment would occasionally have 10-regular-burgers-for-$5 sales and I would break loose 5 of my hard-earned dollars and eat like a "King" on burgers for about 3 days.  That was big-time for me and I think back on those days with fondness and an appreciation that I don't have to deal with that crap anymore.

You can't afford fine-dining (and YES that includes tipping)?  Then you don't "deserve" it.  But you really really are jonesing for some surf-and-turf?  Then pinch pennies in other areas and save up for it.

You're a college student and your struggling financially?  Then understand the parameters of the fight and don't expect other working people, like restaurant servers, to make up for your current shortfall.

Jeebus cristo... "deserve".

P.S. Also, looking back as a one-time college students, I know for a fact that some of these students who think they "deserve" others to make up for their shortfall have dropped a good bit of their money on alcohol.  Because, you know, they "deserve" to party too.  I've seen some pretty damn expensive looking tatts on some of these "starving" students these days too.  Its called PRIORITIES.  Sometimes you can afford that surf-and-turf, tomorrow night's party, AND some fine ink.  You would like all of those things but you don't have enough $$$?  That ain't the restaurant server's fault, broski.  Set your PRIORITIES and make some decisions.

Who are you to say what’s i deserve? I feel my dollar is good enough for your bosses then that’s exactly what’s I deserve. If it’s not not built into the bill anything else’s is subjective to my dinning experiences. Yes I have a paminto cheese sandwhiches and ramen noodle noodles and yes people deserve a break every now and then.

 

If I can afford it and ur boss is ok with my payment. shouldn’t you follow up all further gripes with him. He is the one lowballing you on what you”describe as a fine dinning Experience” maybe you deserve some fine dinning pay? Instead of he treat you like a fast food worker and expect the kindness of strangers to always win out? In a perfect world yes but this world isn’t perfect. The problem is the system that works on the honor code but honor isn’t something that is always gonna win the day. I have nothing against the struggling worker who depends on those tips and needs them to pay the bills.

To say somebody who payed their hard earned money for a meal  didn’t give you what’s you think you deserved is entitled. I wouldn’t tip you because your challenging me and demanding money personally,and maybe all you did was bring out the food that someone’s else’s cooked. Maybe u didn’t comeback and refill my glass or anything. who knows maybe because your busy with other customers and your demanding how much? 

Lets really break it down. Your a waitress or waiter and say you pocket what you make from tips. Say you get 10 dollars per table waited “fine dinning prices of course” your looking at how much at a consistent pace 40 dollars a hour plus whatever pennies the boss is paying and you arguing about what some poor college kid deserves no sir. That cheap kid balences out the good and the bad. People with degrees dont make 40 a hour to bring out food and glasses.  

[cookinbrak]

On 7/13/2018 at 7:47 PM, tiger7_88 said:

Hell, back in the day (WAY back in the day) when I was in college, the Burger King a block away from my apartment would occasionally have 10-regular-burgers-for-$5 sales and I would break loose 5 of my hard-earned dollars and eat like a "King" on burgers for about 3 days.  That was big-time for me and I think back on those days with fondness and an appreciation that I don't have to deal with that crap anymore.

That's why there's usually a CiCi's near a college. Or Little Ceasars.

[micnificent28]

I think there’s a misscommunication on my end about the code word “fine dinning”. When I hear that I think of a place like Sullivan’s steakhouse where no matter what I expect to spend 100 dollars flat and you expect say 10 dollars per table waited. My point being what makes you more qualified as a waiter or waitress than say a waiter or waitress at Applebee’s who isn’t gonna get as much money as you because their prices aren’t as high. I think waiter and waitress should Be a flat price across the board. What makes one superior to the other if your doing the exact same job?

[tiger7_88]

5 hours ago, UnluckyCharms said:

It is not about the cost or paying less, it is the principle of tipping.

[Paintballr]

3 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

Who are you to say what’s i deserve? I feel my dollar is good enough for your bosses then that’s exactly what’s I deserve. If it’s not not built into the bill anything else’s is subjective to my dinning experiences. Yes I have a paminto cheese sandwhiches and ramen noodle noodles and yes people deserve a break every now and then.

 

If I can afford it and ur boss is ok with my payment. shouldn’t you follow up all further gripes with him. He is the one lowballing you on what you”describe as a fine dinning Experience” maybe you deserve some fine dinning pay? Instead of he treat you like a fast food worker and expect the kindness of strangers to always win out? In a perfect world yes but this world isn’t perfect. The problem is the system that works on the honor code but honor isn’t something that is always gonna win the day. I have nothing against the struggling worker who depends on those tips and needs them to pay the bills.

To say somebody who payed their hard earned money for a meal  didn’t give you what’s you think you deserved is entitled. I wouldn’t tip you because your challenging me and demanding money personally,and maybe all you did was bring out the food that someone’s else’s cooked. Maybe u didn’t comeback and refill my glass or anything. who knows maybe because your busy with other customers and your demanding how much? 

Lets really break it down. Your a waitress or waiter and say you pocket what you make from tips. Say you get 10 dollars per table waited “fine dinning prices of course” your looking at how much at a consistent pace 40 dollars a hour plus whatever pennies the boss is paying and you arguing about what some poor college kid deserves no sir. That cheap kid balences out the good and the bad. People with degrees dont make 40 a hour to bring out food and glasses.  

You’ve obviously never worked in the food industry or retail ever.

[tondi]

Hell I still remember eating 4/$1 hot dogs from the local pantry when I was in college. They were roasted on that turning thing and included unlimited toppings so it was a ton of food for $1, even back in the 90s.  I never saw anyone else eating them other than migrant workers. Lol. No tipping required either!  Ate Taco Bell once a week as my "fancy meal".  Never really ate anywhere that required a tip til I got a girlfriend. Can't really take her to the pantry for dinner every night now can you? 

[Devil Doc]

I grew up poor. Iv'e eaten Beans and Cornbread, Ketchup Sandwiches, and Ram noodles. It prepared me to eat almost anything, and I have eaten some sketchy things. 

Tip.. please. 

[Skack25]

Lest we not forget a free Subway sandwich for filling out a credit app.