Game of Thrones - Season 8

[djp14]

3 minutes ago, Arroz con Panther said:

I, for one, think the books are going to be wildly different from the show.

You think there are going to be more books?

[natty]

Grey Worm:  all the queen's enemies need to be executed

Jon:  <kills Dany>

Grey Worm:  I guess we're taking prisoners again

 

 

Grey Worm:  Jon needs to be punished

Everyone:  we'll send him to the wall

Jon later on:  so the unsullied are gone now, we're cool right

Everyone:  yeah stick around, we were just waiting for them to leave

[natty]

Also, it would have been nice if mesunday told grey Worm about the butterflies in Naath.  The unsullied(and dothraki I guess?) will all be dead within a year.

[Arroz con Panther]

1 minute ago, djp14 said:

You think there are going to be more books?

[PanthersBigD]

10 minutes ago, natty said:

Also, it would have been nice if mesunday told grey Worm about the butterflies in Naath.  The unsullied(and dothraki I guess?) will all be dead within a year.

God I hope so. Put them out of their misery. 

[natty]

Sansa was totally right.  The north would never accept being ruled by some s̶o̶u̶t̶h̶e̶r̶n̶ ̶k̶i̶n̶g̶....err the trueborn son of Ned Stark?

[Datawire]

26 minutes ago, CRA said:

 

1.  Does it really matter that he killed Dany.   Even if he didn't want the throne what was even the point of the big Aegon Targaryen reveal ultimately?  He was ultimately the rightful heir to the throne over Dany.   So he killed the chick trying to swindle it from him.  I mean, yeah, he didn't want to rule but how does his bloodline not at least not get him off the hook from punishment.   So he has to be punished because he killed someone that took the throne by force? Someone essentially fraudulently jumping his place?   How does that not even get brought up by all the folks discussing Jon's punishment with the all powerful Grey Worm?  I mean seriously. 

Agreed.

I just find it hard to believe Tyrion and Jon were even still alive. That Gray Worm didn’t kill them immediately in anger/grief is shocking.  Why is Gray Worm going to listen to a king that isn’t his and is elected by Lords and ladies he doesn’t care about? Is it just because he’s followed orders all his life?

That council meeting was a poo-show. Bronn, Master of Coin? Good luck, Six Kingdoms, you’ll need it.  At least, Winterfell looks to be in good hands. 

[PanthersBigD]

The showrunners were given the reins to run the Star Wars franchise into the ground, so they rushed the ending of this series. This series was ten times better than any Star Wars project since ROTJ, and they squandered the opportunity to end it well. 

This reminds me of when Scorcese and Winter rushed the ending on Boardwalk Empire so that they could make that stupid show Vinyl, which was then cancelled during its first season. 

[natty]

2 minutes ago, Datawire said:

That council meeting was a poo-show. Bronn, Master of Coin? Good luck, Six Kingdoms, you’ll need it.  At least, Winterfell looks to be in good hands. 

Nonsense.  The 6 kingdoms will be in the great hands of someone who has demonstrated he doesn't understand loans and almost guaranteed can't even read. 

[Toolbox]

Honestly it's hbo's fault this season was rushed.. they had every opportunity to fire and replace D&D and extend GOT for at least one more season for a proper farewell.. I honestly rather we get a spinoff about robert's rebellion than a spinoff for arya on a boat heading west..

[Toolbox]

25 minutes ago, natty said:

Nonsense.  The 6 kingdoms will be in the great hands of someone who has demonstrated he doesn't understand loans and almost guaranteed can't even read. 

I honestly couldn't believe how shoehorned bronn is in the show.. the dude had very little impact in the books.

[TbTeRRoR]

The wheel of time (Amazon) is in casting now.  Supposedly  to start shooting in Prague in August or some such. I hope its  at least as well done as GoT and the ending(s)......which has a high number of climaxes for multiple characters ( albiet the ultimate was the least climatic) should not be such a let down.

Not to Hijack the GoT thread but anyone have thoughts on this?

[Johnny Rockets]

5 minutes ago, Toolbox said:

Honestly it's hbo's fault this season was rushed.. they had every opportunity to fire and replace D&D and extend GOT for at least one more season for a proper farewell.. I honestly rather we get a spinoff about robert's rebellion than a spinoff for arya on a boat heading west..

Reportedly, it's not supposed to be either. HBO has confirmed that the spinoff is a prequel that takes place thousands of years before the events GOT was built on. Apparently it's already in production and the many of the actors have been announced. 

https://www.polygon.com/game-of-thrones/2019/5/19/18631713/game-of-thrones-prequel-new-show-cast-story-release-date-hbo

[Bronn]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

The more I reflect on it, the more the Jon Snow ending becomes an abomination.  

1.  Does it really matter that he killed Dany.   Even if he didn't want the throne what was even the point of the big Aegon Targaryen reveal ultimately?  He was ultimately the rightful heir to the throne over Dany.   So he killed the chick trying to swindle it from him.  I mean, yeah, he didn't want to rule but how does his bloodline not at least not get him off the hook from punishment.   So he has to be punished because he killed someone that took the throne by force? Someone essentially fraudulently jumping his place?   How does that not even get brought up by all the folks discussing Jon's punishment with the all powerful Grey Worm?  I mean seriously.  

2.  Then the punishment is nonsense.  Take the black and go serve your time at the Wall?  There is no Night's Watch.  Night King also destroyed the wall which magically has been rebuilt.   There is no functioning purpose for folks to be at the wall despite Tyrion trying to explain it all away saying they still needed a place to send naughty people.   And why the fug is Tormond and his folks chilling at Castle Black? essentially chilling there for months? instead of going exactly where they said they would be going which was back to the real North?  But I guess they just figured, nah, let's camp here at Castle Black in case Jon Snow happens to come back and then we will finally go back North. 

I hate to defend the writing, but here goes:

1. It does matter that he killed Dany. That was his purpose, ultimately, as bad as that purpose was. Dany had already flipped the switch to murdering innocent citizens as a means to an end. Jon's role the entire series has been honor and justice, and what better example of justice for all and mercy, unbiased, from Bran as his first act than to sentence the man raised as his own brother, the recently revealed rightful heir to the throne, and now a queen-slayer/kinslayer to banishment at the Wall, where the outcasts of society belong? Sansa could act as tough as she wanted, but as you clearly saw there were (somehow, surprisingly) plenty of Unsullied and Dothraki left. Grey Worm could have taken the city himself if he really wanted to.

2. See #1. The punishment was justice and full circle. The Wall wasn't rebuilt. You saw Castle Black. Only a part of the wall was knocked down, at Eastwatch By The Sea. For all we know it wasn't rebuilt there. I don't know why Tormund was there still, but one would expect they'd had ravens, etc. sent there, keeping them in the loop. After all, they have proven themselves as allies, and the Night's Watch doesn't really have the numbers there to man the castle anyway. For all we know, they were going out ranging to see what was left of the lands beyond the Wall. They also had the shot of the green growth, coming up through the snow. So, they look to be getting spring for the first time in a long time up that way. I'm assuming Jon will keep in touch of the comings and goings on up there.