Game of Thrones - Season 8

[PanthersBigD]

Liked some stuff, but hated most of it. Oh well, on to the next. 

And ya’ll, he’s never finishing those books. 

[cptx]

42 minutes ago, PanthersBigD said:

And ya’ll, he’s never finishing those books.

Yeah, I think the same thing. How long has it been since the most recent one came out, like 8 years?

 

Anyone have Brandon Sanderson's number?

[Ricky Spanish]

1 hour ago, Dex said:

Pretty good way to wrap up the series. I liked the choice for king (even though I felt like they butchered Bran's character for the last two seasons) and they seemed to tie up almost everything. Best scene of the episode was Brienne's filling out Jaime's pages in the King's Guard annals. Would have been a better last scene if it showed Bran dismissing Podrick so he could be alone and then making a subtle hint to the audience that he was warging into Drogon but I digress. Overall I'm unhappy with HOW they got here but I'm happy where things ended up.

All in all last episode gets a solid 8/10 and the entire series gets an 8.5 out of 10. For the record no series has gone past a 9 (The Wire & True Detective Season 1 because it's an anthology series.

There's too much poo in that last episode that made absolutely no sense for me to say it was a good ending.

Wasn't NEARLY as bad as Dexter's end, but it really wasn't that good. 

[Ja Rhule]

After Dany destroys the castle...  it magically all fixed in background as Jon walks toward the ship.  If I had to describe this season with one word it would be “dildos”

[lightsout]

Where to begin....

So I like that we picked up with Jon clearly having killing Dany on his mind from the beginning of the episode until he finally did it. I love that tortured look of knowing what must be done because it is right and utterly refusing to accept it until the moment it is done because of his love for her. Great acting sold all of that well. The first half was super tense because of it. Also the visual of the throne being melted and what that represented for the entirety of the series. Just a great scene.

Then we move along to the time jump (which we know is a few weeks thanks to Tyrion's monologue). I liked that whole scene as well...what I DIDN'T like was treating Jon the way they did. The Unsullied basically strong-armed them into exiling the actual hero of Westeros. He legitimately saved almost every major character and/or their people at some point in this show and certainly saved the entirety of the North by killing Dany. And to top that off, he's a better person than pretty much anybody at this point. And for his trouble, he gets exiled. Now, because he is a good man, he is exiled to go be with people who also love and adore and follow him. So while it is BS, at least it's not a true punishment beyond his choice in the matter being taken. I mean, he did CHOOSE to go to The Wall the first time around to prove himself. But dammit, he should be praised the land over for what he did. Everybody would be bending the knee to a genocidal maniac or be slaughtered by a genocidal maniac were it not for him.

Everybody's roles in the new Six Kingdoms, sure. It is fitting. Sure, Bran becoming king is a tad unexpected. But the way he acted about Tyrion proposing it ("why do you think I came all this way?"). I mean, WHAT?! At no point did you ever suggest that the throne was your endgame but suddenly, once Jon kills Dany, you're all about being the king?

The ending montage was cool. Sansa going from scared little bird to the Queen in the North is awesome. Arya doing her own thing under the Stark banner is cool (goes from feeling like she'll never fit into her family because she didn't want to be a lady, to renouncing her name to become a Faceless woMan, to reclaiming her name and finding her place within the family, just a great character arc). Jon being treated as basically the king of the Wildlings is awesome. Do wish we knew how much time had passed that they could rebuild the castle in King's Landing so quickly. Or repair Winterfell such that the great hall was so pristine. Or know if they fixed the gap in the Wall that the Night King came through or if they leave it as there are no longer any White Walkers and no threat North of the wall that we know of.

I guess I am satisfied in the ending....but it left a bad taste in my mouth about Jon. I felt for him because it's almost a cautionary tale of what happens to good men who remain good. They end up eventually punished for doing the right thing.

[Panthro]

Brann knew everything that would happen in order for him to become King and allowed it.

That's some scary poo

[d-dave]

I think Tyrion made the best point about the story: no one is happy, it was a good compromise.

I really can't wait to finally read Martin's story as well.  Regardless of how angry people are about it, it's over.  The TV story is complete.  The fact that it became such a cultural phenomenon is pretty epic.  I'd say it's certainly one of the most influential shows of all time, maybe not best, but surely influential.

If you are one of the millions who has asked HBO to redo season 8, then I'd say your best bet is to cancel your subscription.  Or stop pirating it. ;)

[CRA]

Was horrible once it got past the part where Jon killed Dany.  

Final season really hurts the overall series.   Writing was just horrific.  They have no idea how to tell a story well.  Martin giving them an ending wasn’t good enough.  They needed more help. 

[Rubi]

Seasons 7 & 8 needed more episodes. 

They could’ve made the Dany vs Jon relationship so stressful and tense with some extra episode time. Would’ve been super interesting to watch the chess pieces move there trying to gain the upper hand. 

I did like the final scene Jon and the wildlings returning to the north. The show started with white walkers attacking in those trees. And in the end they return when it’s finally safe. I thought that was warm and fuzzy. 

[RealBitsOfPanther]

Not really mad at the ending, but like @lightsout said, the Jon ending left a bitter taste in my mouth. I'm all for him returning to the wall/true north because honestly, that's where he wants to be. However, the way they went about him getting to that point was just disrespectful. I think it would have been better if he ended up there on his own accord/decision. 

 

[Bronn]

I pretty much knew everything that was going to happen based on the leaks, but I still thought it was well done.

The Brienne scene wasn't spoiled for me, so that was a nice surprise. Like someone here alluded to, I was kinda hoping she was going to write something like "sired a child upon Ser Brienne of Tarth before his death" lol, but nah.

The ending felt a little rushed, I think because it was a time jump a bit, but there were some nice callbacks and fan services in there. I liked the line about Davos being grammar king (it was a callback to a Stannis scene) and MY BOY GHOST GOT THAT PET!!!! WHO'S A GOOD BOY!!!!!??!?!?!?! WHO'S A GOOD BOY!!!!?!?!? YAY!

They've left it very open to have some direct spinoffs from this show. Where did Drogon take Dany? Will Jon and the Wildlings encounter a new threat in the North? How about Arya's adventures?

Sansa's pretty annoying tbqh. I mean, your brother is king now, and you're still gonna basically rebel? How about don't be asking for any food imports or anything from the South then, k?

Ultimately, the Starks won. That's all that really matters, I guess, but they basically rule all of Westeros from King's Landing northwards directly.

The only real nitpick I have is who the hell was the new ruler in Dorne, and the guy sitting with Yohn Royce and Robyn Arryn, and then the guy beside Edmure? Was that Howland Reed?!?!? WTF? These are supposed to be the most important people in Westeros and we don't even know who three of them are? LOL.

[Bronn]

On 5/18/2019 at 9:33 PM, cptx said:

Which prophecy?

Sorry for seeing this so late, but a lot of them.

The Valonqar prophecy meant nothing.

Jon being brought back and almost dying a bunch basically meant nothing. I guess his purpose was to kill Dany?

Dany met that mysterious masked woman (Quaithe IIRC) back in Essos, and that meant nothing.

Varys and the red priestess, not Mel, back in Essos, who hinted at his purpose.

The red coment.

Azor Ahai.

The Hound having some magical purpose in the R'hllor's plan. Cleganebowl wasn't really anything in the grand scheme.

There's some more, too, but those were the first I thought of.

[Bronn]

lmao btw

 

[CRA]

I thought the scene where they brought out Tyrion to the influential folks of Westeros pretty much highlighted what has been wrong with the show.    Just an awful scene.  Writing is horrible.  

I mean, you bring out a prisoner and he essentially gets to monologue exactly what everyone is going to do and they are just like....okay. Whatever you say Tyrion. 

The writing for Sansa I thought was horrible.  

Same with Bran. 

The writing and vision IMO to execute things was just horrible.  Hey, Bran you want to be king of Winterfell.  Nah, dawg.  I don’t want things like that.  Hey Bran, you want to be King if everything? Why the fug you think I rolled my ass up here dawg. Of course.  

Sansa be like, yeah, no thanks.  I’ll be queen of the North. Everyone else just like.  Cool.  Which really doesn’t make sense she meets no resistance.  

and then that final scene at KL with them all meeting to advise Bran sucked too.  I know Bronn was a fan favorite but he seemed really out of place IMO.  From a moral/character perspective he didn’t fit that group.  Was just fan service because they didn’t know how to work him back in. 

Well...at least Ghost got some respect.   I don’t really mind the endgame of it all.  I actually think Snow getting fugged over was good.  Stark men always get the short straw doing what is right.  Look at Ned overall.  He always took it on the chin.  From being a perceived adulterer to his beheading.  I just think better writers could of done it all better.  

Thought Arya’s end was probably the lamest conclusion.