Game of Thrones - Season 8

[hepcat]

3 hours ago, Bronn said:

Do you all want me to highlight some of the leaks from the last two episodes? Do you want to ask any specific questions?

Granted, they might not be 100% accurate but I feel like, especially this season, spoiling myself sets me up to not be as let down once I see it on screen.

I read the leaks I think you are referencing. They seem plausible but all the prior leaks I've read were half right at best and extremely wrong at worst so my vote would be let's just enjoy the next two episodes of GoT because they are the last two (or maybe three) that we will ever see.

[PanthersBigD]

I hold out hope that there are more dragons. There are four dragons, one large, followed by three smaller ones, on the astrolabe in this season's intro animation. Since we started out with only three, I'm guessing that Rhaegal is truly dead, and that Drogon is the largest one, surrounded by three new, adolescent dragons who can outmaneuver the Scorpions but still burn sh it to the ground. Fingers crossed. 

[Bronn]

5 minutes ago, PanthersBigD said:

I hold out hope that there are more dragons. There are four dragons, one large, followed by three smaller ones, on the astrolabe in this season's intro animation. Since we started out with only three, I'm guessing that Rhaegal is truly dead, and that Drogon is the largest one, surrounded by three new, adolescent dragons who can outmaneuver the Scorpions but still burn sh it to the ground. Fingers crossed. 

That's a lot for only two episodes, though. I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe this was the case, but you never know!

I kind of always thought it just signified the mama dragon and her three babies.

ETA: It is an armillary sphere, not an astrolabe. Not that that matters one bit, lol.
ETA2: So I just found out that armillary spheres have variations called spherical astrolabes. I stand corrected, lol.

[PanthersBigD]

2 minutes ago, Bronn said:

That's a lot for only two episodes, though. I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe this was the case, but you never know!

I kind of always thought it just signified the mama dragon and her three babies.

ETA: It is an armillary sphere, not an astrolabe. Not that that matters one bit, lol.

Whatever, NERD! lol

[Bronn]

1 minute ago, PanthersBigD said:

Whatever, NERD! lol

Admittedly so, but check ETA2. My apologies!

Now I feel like this meme that floated around /freefolk a week or so ago:

[Moorgan]

I think the Dire wolves should have been shown as MUCH more hostile throughout the entire series. Basically show them as the wild fearsome animals they always were instead of the big dogs that we have as pets. Make them very loyal, as they have been, to the Starks but not emotionally available like dogs that crave our approval. Make them barely tolerate any humans and constantly mean to everyone. Snarling, bearing teeth, just plain intimidating...all the damn time. No one is comfortable around them and even the Starks question their "Alpha-ness" at times.

Then, when it's time for them to be released from their service (whatever magic that bound them to the Starks in the first place)  back into the wild, everyone who owns a dog won't be in their feelings about a stone cold killer predator not getting a pat on the head, kisses and treat for being a good boy all those previous seasons.

[Still Brooklyn]

Other dragons? Get the hell out.

Meanier wolves? Quiet, book nerd.

 

[Davidson Deac II]

9 hours ago, thefuzz said:

I agree, the military tactics over the past number of episodes have been questionable at best.  I know that Jamie has a good background in tactics, but man, everyone else on team North must have never read a book in their lives.

Jamie I'm sure cannot be trusted by Dany, but what they are doing is just dumb.

Most of the military tactics in this show have been bad.  Scouting and recon must be against the rules.  Tywin Lannister couldn't tell the difference between two thousand and twenty thousand men.  Stannis Baratheon, Jaime Lannister,  and Ramsay Bolton allowed large armies to approach them without any warning. 

 

But then if I was watching a show for military tactics, I would watch band of brothers. 

[Moorgan]

9 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Most of the military tactics in this show have been bad.  Scouting and recon must be against the rules.  Tywin Lannister couldn't tell the difference between two thousand and twenty thousand men.  Stannis Baratheon, Jaime Lannister,  and Ramsay Bolton allowed large armies to approach them without any warning. 

 

But then if I was watching a show for military tactics, I would watch band of brothers. 

Yeah MOST shows suck at tactics. This show is no exception. But I do find it curious that all of a sudden sound tactical decisions are required for a show to be good. The Hurt Locker won an Oscar and that movie was laughably inaccurate. I agree that bad tactics take you out of the moment because when something dramatic happens (dragon getting shot down) you immediately are saying wait what? How did that happen? How did they let that happen? That is bad writing. But again, when I start to criticize this show in my mind, before I get that upset I remember that basically 99% of shows absolutely suck at tactics and/or strategic decisions.

Questions about character arcs, decision making in line with character development, whether or not a dumpster is involved in saving a character...these things seem more relevant to criticize over the military decision making process. When all of the primaries were in Winterfell discussing their next move and Sansa suggested they rest and refit, Dany asked a solid question. How much time do you think they need? Sansa's answer was also good with a notable exception. She said that she wasn't sure and needed to ask the officers. Very good. Yes they can give you the truth and a realistic timeline. BUT I turned to my daughter right then and said, probably should've had one of those officers in the room when you're planning poo like this. That kind of strategic misstep is bad writing because not getting the answer from an officer of say 2 weeks or whatever he was gonna say allows Dany to blow off the suggestion of waiting because no actual expert in the room suggested it. Omitting the expert from the room allows the plot to go further with Dany charging ahead full steam without her contradicting an actual military expert on a military decision.

But most shows and most writing are terrible at this aspect and so I don't find it particularly grievous that this show is no different. A dragon needed to go down. Dany needs to be shown as rash and perhaps overconfident. New dragon weapon needs to be shown as effective. Ambush from the ocean while flying not far from King's Landing? Why not? Dany is on the verge of blowing a 3 dragon lead. :)

[OneBadCat]

Have to say that I’m disappointed with how it went down with the Night King. Was really hoping there was a backstory there.

im also extremely pissed at how reckless and careless Dany is with her Dragons. Has she ever thought of putting armor on those bad boys? That would have solved a lot of problems for her. 

[d-dave]

1 hour ago, OneBadCat said:

Have to say that I’m disappointed with how it went down with the Night King. Was really hoping there was a backstory there.

im also extremely pissed at how reckless and careless Dany is with her Dragons. Has she ever thought of putting armor on those bad boys? That would have solved a lot of problems for her. 

Any armor that would have stopped the injuries would also have weighed down the dragons to a point they either couldn't fly or would literally be sitting ducks.  I mean, we saw what they did to ships....and how quickly they could be reloaded...  Geez, I'm making a jump here aren't I?

Were I in Danny's shoes, I would have staged the battle for the iron throne from a position of power.  I would set up a 5 mile perimeter around King's Landing.  Then I would declare I was the true Queen of Westeros.  Then I would set up a new city around KL and cut them off from the land.  Then I would pick off the Greyjoy fleet as I could using other means.  Under no circumstances would I expose my Dragons for any reason that put them at risk unless it was absolutely necessary or the danger was minimized.  I would also set up exit highways from KL for the small folk to leave and rejoin the new Seven Kingdoms.  

Let Cersei rot in a castle in KL.  She would break at some point, probably fairly quickly.  Mow down her army as they rushed the perimeter and use my dragons there, well out of range of the crossbows.

Yeah, I've had too much time to think on this...

[Arroz con Panther]

14 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

But then if I was watching a show for military tactics, I would watch band of brothers. 

I wish I could go back and watch that for the first time again. Such a fantastic show.

[PurityControl]

Disappointed with the Night Kind ending as well, 8yr build up for for that.... blah was fully expecting that story to last until the very end. 

The dragon getting ambushed from the sea didn't make a lot of sense to me, how could the ships not be seen from the sky? whats the f*cking range on those spears accurate AF as well i guess. At least the ice spear had the aura of magic around it, so that was acceptable at least to me, but the ships and spears yeah seemed forced. 

Real military history is fraught with bad generals and poor decision making too, I don't want to nit pick too much or the show will cease to be fun for me. 

 

[Rubi]

36 minutes ago, PurityControl said:

Disappointed with the Night Kind ending as well, 8yr build up for for that.... blah was fully expecting that story to last until the very end. 

The dragon getting ambushed from the sea didn't make a lot of sense to me, how could the ships not be seen from the sky? whats the f*cking range on those spears accurate AF as well i guess. At least the ice spear had the aura of magic around it, so that was acceptable at least to me, but the ships and spears yeah seemed forced. 

Real military history is fraught with bad generals and poor decision making too, I don't want to nit pick too much or the show will cease to be fun for me. 

 

I mean. The Avengers did time travel. I thought that was lazy story telling. You’re right, just enjoy it for what it is.