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NFL concludes Panthers workplace harassment investigation

MikeD83

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4 minutes ago, t96 said:

Not really... League has nothing to do with the transaction, just the approval of new owner.

No, but they could put a lien on the franchise...I think.  Depends on NC law and where the franchise is registered.  Some of you lawyer geeks chime in here.

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17 minutes ago, bull123 said:

League got its pound of flesh...time to move on

It's also time to move on from anyone having a notion that Richardson did nothing wrong.

He was investigated and the evidence confirmed he was guilty. Guilty, in fact, of even more than we knew.

Anyone still touting his innocence doesn't have a leg to stand on.

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25 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's also time to move on from anyone having a notion that Richardson did nothing wrong.

He was investigated and the evidence confirmed he was guilty. Guilty, in fact, of even more than we knew.

Anyone still touting his innocence doesn't have a leg to stand on.

I'm not suggesting Richardson didn't do anything but league investigations don't indicate guilt. That is determined by a court of law. That could happen but to equate league findings with guilt is not logical. They even use wording in regards to this in their findings. You should read it.

This is "let's give some money to some causes and pay for our face saving investigation" not a jury or judge determining guilt.

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7 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

I'm not suggesting Richardson didn't do anything but league investigations don't indicate guilt. That is determined by a court of law. That could happen but to equate league findings with guilt is not logical. They even use wording in regards to this in their findings. You should read it.

This is "let's give some money to some causes and pay for our face saving investigation" not a jury or judge determining guilt.

Guilty means "he did it". It's not purely a legal term.

As to the pertinent points of the finding...

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Second, while the investigation was not limited to the matters that have been publicly reported, and did not seek to confirm or reject the details of each specific allegation made regarding Mr. Richardson, it did substantiate the claims that have been made, and identified no information that would either discredit the claims made or that would undermine the veracity of the employees who have made those claims.

That's all a fancy way of saying "he did it", which in common parlance makes him "guilty".

if you need further explanation, I'll be happy to link you to an online dictionary.

I would add that he didn't get fined nearly three million dollars just for the hell of it.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

The guy he's paying owes the league 2.75 million.

That's not relevant whatsoever. You are flat wrong on this. Admit it instead of deflecting...

 

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And let's be real: However they wanna take it, Richardson is in no position to stop them.

This is not what I was discussing but I'll play the game. Possibly but we don't know that for sure. I can't claim to know the laws or the specific details of the CBA or league rules that apply to this and neither can you. Its conceivable that he could get out of paying it once he's no longer associated with the league. Failure to pay the fine could result in a league ban or some other punishment but it wouldn't necessarily be forced out of him--that would depend on the laws relating to how the league's fining system is set up. 

It's pretty silly to be talking about anyways because he'll almost certainly just pay it and move on.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Guilty means "he did it". It's not purely a legal term.

As to the pertinent points of the finding...

That's all a fancy way of saying "he did it", which in common parlance makes him "guilty".

if you need further explanation, I'll be happy to link you to an online dictionary.

I would add that he didn't get fined nearly three million dollars just for the hell of it.

I don't really understand why you'd trust the NFL to investigate any types of issues with their terrible terrible track record. They are a sports league...

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17 minutes ago, t96 said:

I don't really understand why you'd trust the NFL to investigate any types of issues with their terrible terrible track record. They are a sports league...

I get what you are saying. NFL is like the NCAA and their investigations. They aren’t like the police or anything and I don’t know how much integrity or validity I would put into either organizations investigations. They are the judge, jury and executioner. 

Its a pretty well known fact that former duke player Lance Thomas was getting money on the side which would have made him ineligible, thus negating the 2010 natty duke won. NCAA attempted to talk to him after he already left college and was no longer in their jurisdiction and he basically told them to fug off. Prettt much sums up how much power the NCAA has. 

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13 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

I get what you are saying. NFL is like the NCAA and their investigations. They aren’t like the police or anything and I don’t know how much integrity or validity I would put into either organizations investigations. They are the judge, jury and executioner. 

Its a pretty well known fact that former duke player Lance Thomas was getting money on the side which would have made him ineligible, thus negating the 2010 natty duke won. NCAA attempted to talk to him after he already left college and was no longer in their jurisdiction and he basically told them to fug off. Prettt much sums up how much power the NCAA has. 

When they’re investigating something they have total control and ability to get their desired results. We’ve seen this with Zeke Elliott, Hardy, Peterson, etc. And the desired results are ALWAYS what is best for league PR and what will look best for the league and least affect the bottom line. Why anyone would take what the NFL investigated as “fact” is beyond me.

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