Dwight Howard Traded!

[AU-panther]

1 hour ago, yasuhara2241 said:

True, it does more sense then. We will have a good pick the next 2 years with $16m coming off the books from Mosgov and by that time I believe MKG and Marvin would be off and only Nic and Cody would have another year. 

Actually that time frame does make a lot more sense. Tanking seems like the plan. 

Hopefully they don't get in a hurry to rebuild and use Kemba just to shed bad contracts on the team.  

I understand the concept of using a quality asset to get rid of a bad contract to free up cap space but that seems to be a vicious cycle for a lot of teams.  Basically these teams give away good players to free cap space so they can overpay the next overrated FA.    For some teams, like the Lakers, it makes sense, for the majority of the league though the chance of them getting 1 of the few quality free agents each year is slim so they end up overpaing second and third tier FAs.  

If you really want to tank, eat the bad contracts for a few years and accumulate draft picks.  Hopefully you hit on one.

 

[Zaximus]

Man is there a worse run team in the big sports?   Maybe 4-5 teams?

[acymetric]

3 minutes ago, Zaximus said:

Man is there a worse run team in the big sports?   Maybe 4-5 teams?

The Knicks have to be one.

[Eazy-E]

Um, am I the only one who thinks this move means we aren’t tanking? If we were going to tank we would have kept Dwight and traded Kemba. Dwight’s expiring is huge for a team trying to tank.

This was a move to get us under the tax and remove a lockeroom cancer. 

As long as Cody can stay healthy we will be a better functioning team with Cody and Willie.

If we do end up trading Kemba this move will make even less sense.

[OldNorthPowell]

Well the Cleveland Browns of the NBA just pulled off another dumb trade. Yay. Now if Kemba is not traded tomorrow that shows the organization has no direction. Smh. Either all in on winning or tanking, not in the middle. That is how you keep picking late lottery. Which the team does consistently. 

[ncfan]

1 hour ago, acymetric said:

The Knicks have to be one.

Sadly, 

The knicks have a superstar in Porzingus.  Had he not gone down they wouldve had a better record than us 

[toldozer]

Dwight seemed to have a great attitude.  I don't think he was a locker room problem.  He just doesn't fit in the NBA anymore.  Can't win with him dominating the ball on post ups.

[JakeDel5674]

3 hours ago, Eazy-E said:

Um, am I the only one who thinks this move means we aren’t tanking? If we were going to tank we would have kept Dwight and traded Kemba. Dwight’s expiring is huge for a team trying to tank.

This was a move to get us under the tax and remove a lockeroom cancer. 

As long as Cody can stay healthy we will be a better functioning team with Cody and Willie.

If we do end up trading Kemba this move will make even less sense.

Yeah, you're the only one thinking that. This roster is hot garbage. We won't make the Playoffs with this current roster, and another rookie added. It would be moronic. We traded Howard and will likely get a better pick, just like Atlanta moved into getting a Top 5 pick after getting rid of Howard. 

[JakeDel5674]

53 minutes ago, toldozer said:

Dwight seemed to have a great attitude.  I don't think he was a locker room problem.  He just doesn't fit in the NBA anymore.  Can't win with him dominating the ball on post ups.

I'm with you 100 percent on this. It feels like a media narrative at this point with Howard. 

[Porn Shop Clerk]

4 hours ago, Zaximus said:

Man is there a worse run team in the big sports?   Maybe 4-5 teams?

Like almost 2 dozen MLB teams.

[carpanfan96]

7 hours ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

Any chance Mozgov could be part of a Cleveland trade? I'm not saying we are planning that far ahead, but it does seem odd that we practically have an expiring contract away for nothing.

He is loved in Cleveland. Maybe a Kemba, Mozgov and something for the 8th pick and something else?

Don't believe a player recently traded can be traded again within 60 days. Also he doesn't become a Hornet till July, so dont think he can be traded till September. 

[Zaximus]

2 hours ago, Porn Shop Clerk said:

Like almost 2 dozen MLB teams.

Na there's really only about 5-10 clunkers in MLB.

[Woodie]

The word I've heard from people with inside knowledge to describe Howard is "poison."  He was the definition of a cancer within the locker room...and it wasn't just a player or two that had a problem with him, it was everyone.  From what I understand, he was killing the team from the inside.

It's clear some are just looking at his stats, but apparently, he got many of those stats at the expense of his teammates and what's situationally best for the team.  Basically, he often didn't run the play that was called,  box out when he was supposed to, was not good on PnR, etc..  Bottom line, he often did what he wanted, and that usually involved whatever got him those stats, despite it killing the flow of our offense.  He simply wouldn't adjust or listen.  And behind closed doors it was apparently pretty bad.  This was a move that had to be made, no matter the cost.

Just think rationally about it for a second, last year Atlanta was so desperate to get rid of him that they ate a horrible contract from us just so we would take him off their hands, now we do the exact same thing.  Not to mention all the nonsense that had taken place in his stops before then.  If teams are taking other team's garbage to take somebody with that much talent and those stats, then that isn't just a red flag, that's a red hot lava glowing flag.  

[Sub Zero]

12 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

Also the second point to make is that Howard disrupted team chemistry on court. He wasnt as solid of a screen and roll guy as Zeller. Both Kemba and Batum play well off screen and rolls that's another reason why. 

Cody sucks and a bigger pussy than Batum.. He will be hurt week one.. Which will be good because Gomez is a better player anyway ..  And please let's stop blaming Howard for Batum stealing money .  Howard had nothing to do with Batum having no balls and attacking the basket especially when having a mismatched 6'4 and under player guarding him.  Nor did he effect Batum lack of effort on defense.. We fell into the same BS again hoping some French POC would actually be more than a role player..smh