CAP vs Barner

[tiger7_88]

7 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

I mean how well does cap catch the ball? 

7 targets in three seasons.

7 catches in three seasons.

10.1 yards per reception on those seven.

[XOBlackxJokerOX]

CAP gets crapped on for no reason a lot of the time. He's done some good and he's had some hiccups but if you don't practice the read option with your QB, there will be fumbles. I really like how he's big AND shifty. If I wasn't at work, I'd post some gifs but the guy has a mean side step that breaks ankles every time at the first level. I just wish the guy got more chances before we picked up CJ because in actuality we really don't know what we have in CAP.

[Moo Daeng]

29 minutes ago, XOBlackxJokerOX said:

CAP gets crapped on for no reason a lot of the time. He's done some good and he's had some hiccups but if you don't practice the read option with your QB, there will be fumbles. I really like how he's big AND shifty. If I wasn't at work, I'd post some gifs but the guy has a mean side step that breaks ankles every time at the first level. I just wish the guy got more chances before we picked up CJ because in actuality we really don't know what we have in CAP.

We might not, but the team would have a much different view of him in that they see him practice for several seasons now.

[OneBadCat]

Can't blame the FO for picking up one of the best FA backs available. I do feel for CAP though because he has displayed some real talent on the field and I hope Ron was serious about giving him a fair shot.

[Woodie]

33 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

We might not, but the team would have a much different view of him in that they see him practice for several seasons now.

Unfortunately, this is what many fans don't seem to realize when their favorite player doesn't get the opportunities they think he should get.  The reality is that players earn their chance in practice.  Barring injury (and maybe a high pick), coaches don't put guys out there to see how they do if they haven't shown they deserve it in practice first.  

 

 

[tiger7_88]

20 hours ago, Woodie said:

Unfortunately, this is what many fans don't seem to realize when their favorite player doesn't get the opportunities they think he should get.  The reality is that players earn their chance in practice. 

But that's not always true anymore, because under the current bargaining agreement between the NFL and the NFLPA, practice time is extremely limited.  And then when you add onto the top of that a guy like Ron Rivera who is so gutless and risk-averse that he prefers washed-up vets (hello Stewie... hi there Fat-Ass Tolbert... your automatic chair on the starters and playing-time bench is right over there) over and above any kind of "potential" from rookies and younger players.  CAP could easily have gotten those 62 rushes that Fat-Ass got in 2015 or the 35 in 2016, but not with Ron "Give Me Worthless Veterans" Rivera around.

And you can't make me believe for one miniscule micro-second that Fat-Ass Tolbert was "out practicing" ANYBODY, much less CAP.

But what you say above would be perfectly valid in a world where teams could practice and work out players as much as they want.  Then they could, as they say, "separate the wheat from the chaff" much more efficiently.  But when the time you're given in the offseason and each week in the season is as small as it is, pretty much what you do is you go with your starters and frequent (and favored) subs (and, as I said above and as we all know, Ron loves his washed-up vet starters) and give them the vast majority of the limited reps.

Yeah, when you draft a 1st round RB you put him right into the practice rotation because the expense of a 1st round player demands that the team get a return on their investment as early as possible.

But a 5th round RB?  Boy, when you are a head coach like Ron Rivera that is afraid of every football shadow, you can safely ignore a 5th rounder, no matter how much potential he may or may not have.  No real investment in that level of player.

And, yes, I am biased and invested in CAP because of where he played in college.  But, because of that, I'm also one who has seen him perform at the college level and the pro level every time he's been given the opportunity.  He backed up another great college RB in 2013 (Tre Mason) and came in as a back-up that season and performed when asked.  He became the starter in 2014 and led the SEC in rushing.  In his rare opportunities with Carolina, he averages better than 4 yards per carry and his 4 rushing TDs over the past three years is only behind Cam and Stewie in that period.  During that period he's rarely been thrown to (7 targets) but he catches everything that is thrown to him (7 receptions).  I mean, as the guy whose vast majority of time on the sideline the last 3 seasons has been in a sweat suit because All-Pros like Fat-Ass and Fozzy are playing, that's actually not bad and I can't wrap my mind around the grief that the guy is given in this forum.  Hell, this forum still insists on believing mythologies about his "fumbling problem".

But Ron "Players Coach" Rivera will likely either (1) keep him on the roster and not use him this year or (2) cut him at the very last minute meaning he'll have to scramble to hook onto a team for which he didn't practice and missed camp.  In other words, its probably very likely that "Players Coach" Rivera will fug him again.

I sure would love to see what Bill Belichik could do with a guy who has the vicious foot-plant-cut-and-go that CAP has that can also catch like he can.  He seems to love RB reclamation projects up there and he sure as hell ain't afraid to give opportunities to players that nobody has ever heard of.  Almost like he's a coach that realizes football is a game where Priority One is to go out and try to make plays rather than a game where Priority One is to try to limit your risks.

[Snake]

CAP is definitely overrated on here so I can see him getting knocked off. 

[tiger7_88]

35 minutes ago, Snake said:

CAP is definitely overrated on here 

[micnificent28]

give me hood over cap

[micnificent28]

On 6/18/2018 at 7:33 AM, tiger7_88 said:

7 targets in three seasons.

7 catches in three seasons.

10.1 yards per reception on those seven.

 

You say that with pride..? CMC has had that many catches in a half i would say.

[KSpan]

4 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

 

You say that with pride..? CMC has had that many catches in a half i would say.

Looks like just stating the stats, and his post directly above yours is about how he'd like Hood over CAP.

[tiger7_88]

4 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

 

You say that with pride..? CMC has had that many catches in a half i would say.

You asked a question.

I answered it.

Providing you a direct statistical answer with no fluff is prideful now?

[Moo Daeng]

Witnessing the ultimate collegiate homer in full stride is a sight to behold. I suppose this is standard procedure for an SEC fan who's life is literally connected at the hip to their team. However to normal humans it seems borderline psychotic.

[tiger7_88]

24 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Witnessing the ultimate collegiate homer in full stride is a sight to behold. I suppose this is standard procedure for an SEC fan who's life is literally connected at the hip to their team. However to normal humans it seems borderline psychotic.