Ron Rivera Already On That BS

[mc52beast]

Dude hasn’t done anything to merit being given the lead going into camp, except for the fact that he’s got the most reps out of everyone fighting for that spot. 

If it’s an honest and open competition and Amini wins the job then that will say a lot about everyone else

[Woodie]

11 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

To me this is why he has the nod going into camp.  Sirles may have played it better but he didn't play it as a Panther.  I get why he is the "Starting LG" going into camp.  

I have faith that Turner is not going to let a better player sit on the bench in HIS OFFENSE. 

Yep.  Silatolu is the floor.  If nobody can beat him out, then they don't deserve to start...and we've got a pretty bad stable of LG candidates.    

[Woodie]

8 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Depends on whether you believe Geoff Schwartz.

Schwartz recently said on the radio that the idea coaches don't know who their starters are right now is a myth. He believes that outside of additional cuts, signings etc. the depth chart is what it will be.

Is he right? Don't know, but he's been there.

I guess we'll see.

Geoff really doesn't know, though.  He's just assuming.  But in general, logic says he's right, except in certain situations, like our LG, where a position is going through a change and is unsettled.  Sure, coaches probably have an idea who they want and expect to step up and take the job, but until they actually do step up, nothing is set.

For example, I'm sure the coaches know who they want to win the LG job, but they don't just want to hand it to him, they want him to earn it.  Which is why they are giving Silatolu the faux first crack.

[SOJA]

I will be upset if Amini is starting Day 1, but it kinda makes sense though for Ron to say this. 

First off, we don't lose anything by artificially inflating Amini's confidence.

Second, we WANT all the other guys competing (Moton, Sirles, UDFAs, Larsen) to feel like they are underdogs to get the job. If Ron flat out said: "Yep Moton is the starting guard." Would Moton try as hard? It's human nature not too, nothing against Moton. 

Third, this is the typical kind of coach speak where later on you can be like: You know Taylor came in and just flat out outperformed everyone. You make whoever earned the job feel great about themselves and boost their confidence. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Woodie said:

Geoff really doesn't know, though.  He's just assuming.  But in general, logic says he's right, except in certain situations, like our LG, where a position is going through a change and is unsettled.  Sure, coaches probably have an idea who they want and expect to step up and take the job, but until they actually do step up, nothing is set.

For example, I'm sure the coaches know who they want to win the LG job, but they don't just want to hand it to him, they want him to earn it.  Which is why they are giving Silatolu the faux first crack.

It's an odd concept though, isn't it? Wanting someone to be good enough to win a job when your basic task is to figure out who actually is the best person for the job.

Isn't hoping for somebody to be better then a particular guy kind of a tacit acknowledgement that guy isn't really all that good?

[Woodie]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's an odd concept though, isn't it? Wanting someone to be good enough to win a job when your basic task is to figure out who actually is the best person for the job.

Isn't hoping for somebody to be better then a particular guy kind of a tacit acknowledgement that guy isn't really all that good?

Not really, I don't see it as hoping so much as what they anticipate what will happen.  It's just a way to motivate a guy to push and earn the job rather than just having it handed to him...especially when he's changing positions. 

True competition is so important, and giving a guy a job before he actually earns it would undermine the idea that guys actually have to compete to win a job.  It's why I think all the worry some have over Silatolu starting at LG is silly.  He's just there as the obstacle the guy they really want to start (likely Moton) has to overcome.  

It's really not all that different than CJ coming in as CMC's primary backup (except the changing positions part).  While everyone hopes and expects he'll win the backup role, he's technically competing with CAP for the job.

[Doc Holiday]

5 hours ago, stbugs said:

I am not outraged, I’m worried. That Barwin blow up of Amini was week 10 in 2014. For those that don’t recall, it took an injury to get Norwell into the lineup over Silatolu in week 7. Silatolu came back week 10 against Philly and what happened? Ron started him again and got Cam killed and then Norwell finally took over. A first team all-pro/highest paid guard for a couple months had to get time over a poo player based on injury and still almost got benched again until the poo player got his QB killed.

That’s what we are scared about. If Moton isn’t as good as Norwell (we have no idea), what will it take for him to win the job?

It’s an open competition for Christ’s sake

[Ace_Aladdin]

21 hours ago, beastson said:

Bustin my ass at work and come to the huddle 

 

 

Find a career not a job lol

[tiger7_88]

On 6/14/2018 at 8:16 PM, beastson said:

Bustin my ass at work and come to the huddle 

 

And people still wonder why it took Ron Rivera so long over so many repeated interviews to get a head coaching job.

Then he met Jerry Richardson and it was a match made in 1950's-Style NFL Derp Heaven and voila!

[tiger7_88]

On 6/14/2018 at 8:41 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

As long as Ron allows for an open and honest competition then I’m not too worried. Amini won’t win it.

So what you're saying is that he is NOT going to favor his pet less-talented horrific veteran player over players he doesn't know as well like he has over his past 7 other years as head coach?

Exactly why will this time be different than all those other times again?