Matt Kalil article by Bill Voth

[MHS831]

Glass half full theory:  What if the injury was a problem and we will be getting an elite OT this year?  I read between the lines and inferred (dangerous area) that he did not rehab the injury like he should have.  He compared it to scopes--you really don't have any idea of the pain and dread of rehabbing a major injury until you have to do it.  I had to rehab a shoulder after major surgery.  It did not become my religion, and I was done.  We shall see. 

Regardless, we shall see. 

Glass half empty theory: This is his final year if he does not step up.  He then loses out on many millions of dollars and has to find out what being married to an ordinary girl is like, because his hot babe wife is not after his looks, body, or game at this point.  One has to assume he has a great personality or is rich.

[Jimmy]

6 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

 

Glass half empty theory: This is his final year if he does not step up.  He then loses out on many millions of dollars and has to find out what being married to an ordinary girl is like, because his hot babe wife is not after his looks, body, or game at this point.  One has to assume he has a great personality or is rich.

What are you smokin'? He's one fine somabitch!

[SetfreexX]

Way I see it is even Cam in a diminished off-season didn't look like the Cam we were used to until the back half of the season, why would we expect anything more or less given LT is one of the most strenuous positions to play coming off that kind of surgery as well. 

I think we all saw, if honest the OL trending up as the season went along, I mean really consider this...with no consistent run game, and a receiver group decimated by injuries and supplanted with practice squad players, and cast-offs we were able to field an 11-5 team. 

Even our defense had taken a bit of a step back in areas, so we can't say they carried us. I think the money Kalil got, and the fact they didn't comment much on the seriousness of his surgery, and recovery expectations is what had everyone shell-shocked early on when he looked bad. 

Kalil / Moton / Kalil / Turner / Williams -- with Larsen as the swing G/C and some of the other depth could be a lot worse, I think we have the makings of an above average offensive line. With an emphasis on making the lay-ups and taking the vertical plays when they're there, as well as renewed talent at receiver and in the backfield I think a lot of pressure on the offensive line will be relieved as we have very complimentary pieces all around on offense, something we haven't had in a while. 

[Cyberjag]

45 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

True. But he is the 11th paid LT in the league on an avg per year basis. You mentioned pct of teams salary cap on the position. That would be effected by salary of other players on the team too. So if a team has a QB on a rookie contract  vs a top paid high priced franchise QB it affects that percentage.

That being said, if Kalil can play better to the point of being near the 11th best LT (meaning an above average LT) I would be happy with that. This gives at least a hope that it is reasonable to attain.

For clarification, I meant cap dollars, not cap percentage.  Should have provided a link.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/left-tackle/

[Moo Daeng]

1 minute ago, SetfreexX said:

Way I see it is even Cam in a diminished off-season didn't look like the Cam we were used to until the back half of the season, why would we expect anything more or less given LT is one of the most strenuous positions to play coming off that kind of surgery as well. 

 

As a fan base we generally love Newton and therefore look for reasons (reasonably so) to explain when he's not playing up to expectation.  People want to hate Kalil so they ignore the reasons. It's pretty much that simple.

[CPF4LIFE]

I dont feel better about current failures from reading anything. I want to see results on the field. 

[Moo Daeng]

3 minutes ago, Cyberjag said:

For clarification, I meant cap dollars, not cap percentage.  Should have provided a link.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/left-tackle/

Then at this point he making very reasonable salary. You can't listen to the general narrative here because it's not rooted in any sort of fact. Also indicates he is the only person on the roster listed as a LT

[shaqattaq]

18 minutes ago, SetfreexX said:

Kalil / Moton / Kalil / Turner / Williams -- with Larsen as the swing G/C and some of the other depth could be a lot worse, I think we have the makings of an above average offensive line. With an emphasis on making the lay-ups and taking the vertical plays when they're there, as well as renewed talent at receiver and in the backfield I think a lot of pressure on the offensive line will be relieved as we have very complimentary pieces all around on offense, something we haven't had in a while. 

Exactly, If there is no one to throw to, the D is going to get to Cam. Having receivers that can separate a little bit will make the line's (and Cam's) job easier. Plus , If Norv can call a 1st or 2nd down play that actually picks up yardage and not consistently leave us 3rd and long, the job gets easier.

[mc52beast]

Hopefully his success didn’t totally come from having a very good running qb and working next to an all-pro guard.

[Toomers]

28 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Then at this point he making very reasonable salary. You can't listen to the general narrative here because it's not rooted in any sort of fact. Also indicates he is the only person on the roster listed as a LT

  That number doesn’t include the 14.7M we have already paid him and must be accounted for sooner or later. What kind of roots does that FACT have? 

[Shotgun]

I hope Kalil improves but what I'm really worried about is Silatolu.

[Clicheking]

I'll believe it when I see it on the field. This is the same coaching staff that told us to be optimistic about Byron Bell at LT because he was left handed and his play would improve

[Black&BlueBubba]

Here is the frustration.  It’s not with the player.  It’s with the contract. If GM’s hold true to the statement “you don’t pay for previous performance”. Then it should hold true that “ you don’t pay up for NO performance”. 

That is what Gettleman did with both Khalil and Shepard.  

We are paying for a top tier LT that has never consistently shown that his is that player. 

I hope is shows us that player this year. 

[Moo Daeng]

22 minutes ago, Toomers said:

  That number doesn’t include the 14.7M we have already paid him and must be accounted for sooner or later. What kind of roots does that FACT have? 

The signing is prorated and included in that cap number