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New policy requires on-field players, personnel to stand for anthem


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They gonna stop selling concessions and beer and stuff during the anthem?  Probably should, so the people selling nachos and pretzels can exercise their only societally accepted way of showing patriotism.  Fug the anthem and fug the trigger happy cops that ultimately started all of this. 

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15 minutes ago, Seoul_Panther said:

  Interesting. It seems that your freedoms come with a lot more conditions than I was aware. I suppose all will bend the knee to ayatollah Goddell then.

I'm assuming you live in South Korea, or are at least from there.

Are you allowed to do/say whatever you want at work with no consequences?

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I am for honoring the national anthem. I am also a veteran. However, I'm also for freedom. IMO, By prohibiting these players from expressing their god-given right to protest we have actually stolen their freedom.  I believe a better compromise would have been to allow them to take a knee after honoring our flag for a required amount of time.  I don't believe it is the player's intentions to disrespect our flag, our Anthem, or our military.  I believe their intention is to stand up for what they perceive as human Injustice.  So why not allow them to take a knee halfway through the anthem after they've already honored our country?  This would make it clear to those who are offended by the kneeling that their intention is not to disrespect the flag, the anthem or our country because they're willing to stand for the first half of the anthem.  For the second half of the anthem they could be given the right to take a knee to protest causes like police brutality.  To me, this would be better than requiring them to hide in a locker room, sacrifie their freedom and be prevented from taking a stand against social justice issues.

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19 minutes ago, bewonee said:

It may not be the NFLs intent, but it is what most believe. Kneeling over the anthem is disrespectful to the troops. I wouldn't say I am "triggered" over it, but I don't approve of it. Staying the lockerroom is a way classier way to protest nonissues imo.

Then they are and you are gullible. You're choosing to believe what you're told, rather than what is true. It's not even about being 'woke' or any of that garbage, it's just about having common sense. An anthem is a song used to rally people to a cause. It's not a sacred thing, it's just a song, meant to evoke an emotional response. The flag likewise, is just a symbol. It represents all of us. If you trample all over some of our citizens in order to 'respect' the flag, then you've missed the entire point of the flag. 

You know why the military wastes money on this type of thing, when the majority of people already view the military favorably? It's to make you feel like your blind, passive support for their PR stunt is actually something you've done to 'support the troops.' That way, they know you won't make a fuss when they let the VA go all to hell, and continue to send our men and women overseas for pointless BS. If it were really about respecting the troops, our government would treat them like a precious resource, rather than meat for the grinder. 

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20 minutes ago, Seoul_Panther said:

  Interesting. It seems that your freedoms come with a lot more conditions than I was aware. I suppose all will bend the knee to ayatollah Goddell then.

These are the same type of people who cry and cry about the 2nd amendment after a psychopath easily obtains a gun, usually an assault style weapon and randomly murders 13 innocent people resulting in an uproar for gun control. The  2nd amendment was created in 1791 when the guns used took like 20 mins to load one bullet and were obviously nowhere near the level of destruction and deadliness they are now. Also the same crybaby snowflakes who counter the gun control argument with an idiotic rebuttal like “well garage doors kill people too let’s ban all garage doors” LMAO. 

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My handbook at work dictates that I wear polos and khakis or business/professional attire. They aren’t stepping on my freedom if I decide to instead wear a t-shirt and gym shorts. Rules are implemented and regardless how idiotic anyone feels they may be the fact of the matter is that they are to be followed. Same could be said for marijuana. 

 

I could always find employment elsewhere or start my own business if I felt like I was being mistreated but I would challenge anyone to find a place that has rules that they didn’t feel were stupid and yet we go to work and do our jobs. 

 

What can’t be done: finding a way to express your beliefs or raise awareness to an issue without offending SOMEONE.

 

What CAN be done: follow the rules set in place by your organization without whining or breaking said rules -or- find another place of work -or- pay the penalty of breaking said rules if you so deem appropriate.

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57 minutes ago, ECUPantherFan said:

I'm assuming you live in South Korea, or are at least from there.

Are you allowed to do/say whatever you want at work with no consequences?

  Define ‘whatever you want.’ I don’t reckon you need me to tell you that  the majority of jobs aren’t filled by millionaires performing in front of a live tv audience. That alone precludes the worth or impact of protest for a layman as I believe you well know. Ultimately are they less able to do their job because of the protests? But just to indulge your whimsical comparison, I would feel any employer would have every right to fire me if a protest affected my ability to do my job or the service my business was providing. Despite this I would go ahead with it if I truly believed in it. Because that is the nature of protest. Happily I do not consider myself an automaton and nor will I ever be ok with being told that I may not convey an opinion because it upsets someone else’s sensibilities.

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