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Tepper the biggest question unanswered?


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Tep has said to day the first thing he cares about is winning and the second thing he cares about is winning. Does this mean we should should see a shift from our choir boy philosophies and start to roll the dice on some risky talents? Does this mean the end of passing on players like  janoris jenkins,The honey Badger, la'el collins, and laremy tunsil's and anyone who has done so much as run a red light? This could be the biggest change we see as soon as this year with Tepper. A changing of the guard so to speak in philosophy, and I for one would welcome it. Not every risk is rewarded but most of these guys haven't made to much fuss and lived up to there billing since entering the league. If you see a talent like this falling and you have a strong locker room or support system why not help that young man find his way instead of labeling him a career villian. These are the Draft day bargain sales that I think you have to swing at to win Super Bowls. I must say I am excited about the possibilities and changes this man might bring since he has committed to keeping the team in Charlotte and the Carolinas. 

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I've heard one analyst speak on that topic. Can't remember who, but he said he doesn't really expect the way the Panthers approach players with character issues to change.

My expectation was that we'd be more like the Steelers, but the only person I've heard state an opinion on that question disagreed.

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Jerry Richardson always said he wanted to model the team after the Steelers. In actual practice, we weren't really all that much like them.

That might change under Tepper, especially if he brings people over from the Steelers to help run things.

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Think you will see more of a  risk/reward matrix with Tepper. That being if it was one occurrence he might take the risk. But if it is multiple things then no. 

 

Goes without saying if it is something major ie battery robbery assault then don't see Tepper taking them. He said he wanted to win on the field and community. 

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One thing I feel pretty certain of: Anybody with a domestic violence charge on their record has zero chance of coming here.

We'd already heard that Tepper had some pretty strong views on domestic violence. After having heard his commencement speech, we know a little more about why.

Truth be told, a lot of the league is going that direction anyway.

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4 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

The Bengals have a rep for taking chances on risky guys. They suck and deal with the crap from these bad apples. No thanks.

No one said this works out always. And they suck because they don't have a Quarterback. A lot of other situations have worked out and failed. Just depends on the player. I didn't say draft every player ever to mess up in college. What I am saying is do your due diligence.

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46 minutes ago, toldozer said:

You say that's what it takes to win a super bowl... but none of the guys you listed have been on a super bowl winning team. 

Yeah, none of the teams in the example are any more competitive than us.

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8 hours ago, Squirrel said:

Think you will see more of a  risk/reward matrix with Tepper. That being if it was one occurrence he might take the risk. But if it is multiple things then no. 

 

Goes without saying if it is something major ie battery robbery assault then don't see Tepper taking them. He said he wanted to win on the field and community. 

agreed. i think he'll be more of a risk taker and probably try to push that, but i think he'd probably draw the line on violent off field behavior considering his stances and experience with abuse.

going back to the risk taking, i think he expects a pretty quick return on his investments as far as people go and if he takes a risk on you, you'd better pay off quickly or he'll move on. production > loyalty. that said, i don't think he'll be a meddler. he seems to be the kind of boss that has high expectations for roles he has people fill and if they don't do their job at the level he expects, you're probably going to hear about and/or get moved out of that position. GM is going to have to produce wins. He's got to make sure he's got the right coaches and right players that produces wins and if he can't manage that, he's gone.

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