Possible changes to anthem guidelines

[ellis]

Keep all players in the locker room until the anthem ends. Then, player introductions. Like it used to be done.

I’m dead serious. The NFL and its players clearly have no idea how to handle a :60 song.  

 

[ellis]

Shame on the far left and the far right for seizing this song for their own gain. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, The Lobo said:

For sure on the team rulings. I’ve always felt to end the matter entirely, just have them wait in the locker room like they used to. I know I’ve said that a few times, but it really would end the conversation.

Unless the Players Association objects.

The guys that are protesting want to be seen. Keeping them in the locker room prevents that.

They could choose a different time, of course.

[The Lobo]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Unless the Players Association objects.

The guys that are protesting want to be seen. Keeping them in the locker room prevents that.

They could choose a different time, of course.

Makes sense. I agree with you on another time, surely they could use their platform outside of the game to raise awareness to a cause they are supporting. What about post game press conferences?

[4Corners]

4 minutes ago, je1005 said:

I will always stand, and proudly so. That’s all I can control. 

What’s your point 

[4Corners]

1 hour ago, rayzor said:

Seriously why does it matter if a few people don't participate? Never seen why it's such a big deal. Do your own thing. You can't force admiration and respect, especially for some song and piece of cloth. Don't try and enforce it or your no better than north Korea.

It’s a big deal now because the discussion has evolved into something different - and you and I both know what that is. Some of which has been stirred up deliberately by the President. 

People who want sports separate from society or separate from their POV aren’t being logical and quite frankly are being irrational. Sports are a microcosm of society. Those same people who don’t want politics in sports are the same people who wouldn’t have a problem with it as long as they agreed with the message of the protests or nature of the discussion. Sad!

[Devil Doc]

@4Corners I work in a building with offices, we are not allowed to have anything political on our desk, on the wall, even on our cars. Of course, some people get buy with it. When the workers protest, thet protest across the street... not allowed on property. Its called the Hatch act. 

[Pimpdaddy]

I love the anthem before every game...and the honor it bestows on extraordinary human beings that sacrificed. If anyone wants to kneel let them, it really doesnt change sht.. its a cheap grab for 'look at me' by most... they can put up their millions to make a difference if they're serious ...if that happened everyone would stand...what has actually come of someone kneeling...nothing but a new ***** rule by the NFL..

[NanuqoftheNorth]

38 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Those same people who don’t want politics in sports are the same people who wouldn’t have a problem with it as long as they agreed with the message of the protests or nature of the discussion. Sad!

You've described the majority of just about every demographic.

The NFL sells a product intended to allow fans to live vicariously through the players/team.  When it works as designed, fans are able to escape the drudgery/problems of their otherwise ordinary lives.

Players that fail to honor the flag undermine the illusion before the game even begins.

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

You've described the majority of just about every demographic.

The NFL sells a product intended to allow fans to live vicariously through the players/team.  When it works as designed, fans are able to escape the drudgery/problems of their otherwise ordinary lives.

Players that fail to honor the flag undermine the illusion before the game even begins.

Flip it over though.

If a load of players were holding anti-abortion protests with graphic pictures held up during games, would you want to see that?

[NanuqoftheNorth]

1 hour ago, Dr. Zin said:

The Anthem isnt political, but ok!!

Have you read the original lyrics?

Also, the issue goes hand in hand with honoring/not honoring the American flag.

That has been a political issue for as long as I've been alive (a long time). 

It has been debated in the halls of congress and by the USSC.

It really doesn't get much more political than that.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

18 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Flip it over though.

If a load of players were holding anti-abortion protests with graphic pictures held up during games, would you want to see that?

Of course not!

That is my point.  

Why do people go to football games?

To see a football game, not to get caught up in political agendas.

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Of course not!

That is my point.  

Why do people go to football games?

To see a football game, not to get caught up in political agendas.

As an aside, am I the only one who finds it ironic that this discussion involves a league that for the last several years restricted players from celebrating touchdowns?

[AggieLean]

1 hour ago, Pimpdaddy said:

I love the anthem before every game...and the honor it bestows on extraordinary human beings that sacrificed. If anyone wants to kneel let them, it really doesnt change sht.. its a cheap grab for 'look at me' by most... they can put up their millions to make a difference if they're serious ...if that happened everyone would stand...what has actually come of someone kneeling...nothing but a new ***** rule by the NFL..

This is not true at all. There has been quite a bit gained by the players kneeling. If you choose to ignore that, that’s on you.

As for this topic, I’ve said what I had to say so won’t be no back and forth from me. I will keep a close on eye on this and react accordingly. The league won’t put in a rule to stop the kneeling, but if they do, that won’t stop no show.