Possible changes to anthem guidelines

[OneBadCat]

How childish

[Mother Grabber]

40 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's not embedded in the Constitution, but yes, employers do have the right to set behavior standards for their employees.

That said, regardless of where you stand on the protest issue, I'm not in favor of assessing football penalties for non-football related actions.

Just because a business can define standards, it doesn't mean that those standards are legal, or that any action they take against someone not following them is legal.  A business can make behavior standards all they like, but those standards are not above any laws.

This is really an issue for the NFL and the Players Association to hash out.  A league enforced game penalty is idiotic, as is dragging it into a media/twitter fight, which is essentially where it is now.

[Mother Grabber]

20 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

There is absolutely no requirement to play the national anthem prior to athletic events. 

Less than 100 years ago it wasn't even that common for sports leagues to do it.

https://www.history.com/news/why-the-star-spangled-banner-is-played-at-sporting-events

If I were the NFL Commissioner I'd keep the players in their locker rooms until game time.

Continue to play the national anthem and we can go back to focusing on fellow fans that routinely disrespect the flag by walking, talking, laughing and failing to remove their hats.

fuggin hat wearin commies!

[Mr. Scot]

I'd agree with keeping the players in the locker room until after the anthem as a solution.

But I wonder, would the NFLPA agree to it?

[ThatsJustAJ]

1 hour ago, steven8989 said:

Why can't they stand for the National Anthem and support this beautiful country?

Because them not being required to stand is part of what make the country “beautiful” 

[pantherphan96]

get rid of the anthem altogether. inherently political, as are the military flyovers. 

[Mr. Scot]

18 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

Just because a business can define standards, it doesn't mean that those standards are legal, or that any action they take against someone not following them is legal.  A business can make behavior standards all they like, but those standards are not above any laws.

This is really an issue for the NFL and the Players Association to hash out.  A league enforced game penalty is idiotic, as is dragging it into a media/twitter fight, which is essentially where it is now.

Given the decision the Supreme Court just made, I seriously doubt you'd get much traction claiming that a firing violated your right to free speech.

[4Corners]

2 minutes ago, Popsickle said:

I'm for minority players doing, just not the white ones. 

 

 

 

I'm I doing this SJW thing right?

I mean...it’s black players exercising their freedom of speech and it’s white people whining about it. It is what it is. 

[4Corners]

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

Not correct. These are entertainers and they are paid to play a game and entertain us.  Just because there are cameras, that does not give the players the right to turn half of the crowd away to detract from the game--an escape from the politics and drama of the week.  They damaged profits last year.   I agree with the players, but you don't go to your job and start advocating for your second amendment rights and put up NRA banners around your desk....

Get off your knee and get out in the community and make a difference there.

Where the hell do you work? Some mill or factory where most of the employees don’t own a desk?  There’s plenty of people where I work with political things on their desks, both sides of the isle. But you are missing the point. I don’t think peacefully raising awareness for what someone believes in to be “political,” but unfortunately the whole anthem debate has managed to wake up the racists and prejudiced people in our country. It’s turned into white conservative America vs black “militant” players as a previous poster so eloquently put it.  

You are obviously so out of your element that it is amusing, and honestly, you need to stick to sports. Your comments reek of racial undertones and it’s apparent you are ignorant on this topic. Kapernick was protesting well before two years ago, it just wasn’t noticed by a camera until later. You can also look up the social causes, charities, and programs that the anthem protesters have donated their time and money to. Don’t believe me? Google it!

I would be willing to bet that Kapernick has donated more time and money to charities than  President Good christian has since this nonsense started. 

[4Corners]

2 hours ago, emcannon said:

Assessing a penalty for exercising your constitutional right to peaceful protest. I'm sure that'll go over well among the players and fans. Unbelievable.

Bingo. 

Regardless of where you stand on this idiotic debate, NFL penalizing players freedom of speech is probably the worst thing that the league could do. It will blow up in their faces. It would be a good way to turn a non violent protest into something far greater. 

 

[4Corners]

1 hour ago, MHS831 said:

Nobody is taking away their first amendment rights.  They will still have those when they are unemployed. 

I’m sure when you are watching the game at home, you immediately stop what u are doing, stand up and salute the flag when the anthem comes on TV. That’s if you can even pick up the broadcast reception in your trailer park. 

[JARROD]

Tinder box,...

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, JARROD said:

Tinder box,...

It seems everything has to turn into a political debate. 

[JARROD]

3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

It seems everything has to turn into a political debate. 

Yep