First name Tepper is looking to bring in: fired Browns team president Mike Keenan

[Jon Snow]

11 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Like usual you miss the point. So far he has done a great job for what he was supposed to do- formative evaluation. At the end of the year we will see how the team does- Summative evaluation. Nothing is premature, it is spot on for where we are in the evaluative process. Again you are only accounting for one part of the process which is not how good evaluations are done.

No, you are making assumptions that everything he has done is a great move just by doing it.  There is no way to frame it other than you think it's great that he does something, anything.  You want to heap praise on him for simply doing what the job requires. 

The effects of his decisions may not be known for a few years.  Yet you proudly proclaim that it's a great job without even knowing how it plays out. 

You are no different than the mindless folks who proclaim every draft pick or FA signing as great or terrible before they ever play the first game much less a full season.  Twist it however you wish but the fact remains no one will know how he's done until the season is over at minimum, possibly longer.

[arbnranger]

2 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

This constant referring to "cheerleader running the business" is some sexist BS. 

I haven’t noticed or paid any attention to those comments personally. However,  just to be devils advocate, is that not a fact? 

I guess I’m not seeing the context of sexism from your statement. The huddle is EOB. 

Equal opportunity bashers. 

[Davidson Deac II]

1 hour ago, bull123 said:

A football guy from Cleveland to be the first hire...think I’d rather have the cheerleader 

I think he is less of a football guy, and more of a bean counter.  

[Squirrel]

You know who else was fired from Cleveland. Belichick

[Paintballr]

3 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

This constant referring to "cheerleader running the business" is some sexist BS. Yes, he's going to put his person in that spot.  

We have had 4 presidents who were cheerleaders but you don't hear anyone saying "Cheerleader running the country".  It's dismissing everything about a person based on gender stereotype and says more about you than them.

I don’t want to be “that guy”, but her experience is and should be questioned. 

She joined the team in 1999 as a TopCat cordinator. So in 19 years she has gone from that to COO running a now valued $2.3 billion business?

I appreciate someone who has worked their way up at a company (I’m the same way, started part time and moved up in 12 years), but I’m not a damn COO.

Does she has experience before joining the top cats of running a business? On the panthers site on her bio, it credits her for working with marketing around the fan experience, and stadium operations. Other than that? 

With sources saying the operation side was like a circus, like it or not she helped “run that”. If you just purchased a $2.3 billion investment, do you want someone who has no experience running it, and with current reputation of it being a clown show? 

[panthers55]

54 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

No, you are making assumptions that everything he has done is a great move just by doing it.  There is no way to frame it other than you think it's great that he does something, anything.  You want to heap praise on him for simply doing what the job requires. 

The effects of his decisions may not be known for a few years.  Yet you proudly proclaim that it's a great job without even knowing how it plays out. 

You are no different than the mindless folks who proclaim every draft pick or FA signing as great or terrible before they ever play the first game much less a full season.  Twist it however you wish but the fact remains no one will know how he's done until the season is over at minimum, possibly longer.

Wrong like usual. What he did was look at the spots we needed to replace due to player losses and not overpaying for guys like Norwell. Then he went.out and plugged most of the holes with guys as good or better than we had except for Norwell. Then he showed patience not jumping ahead in the draft and wasting draft picks while getting us, by early estimates, a good crop of players that fill additional needs. Then he went in free agency and filled in with guys like Anderson which again is an upgrade over Stewart. 

You are the one with the agenda twisting everything to fit your negative agenda.

Truth is you have to have a number of points of evaluation like now see who else we need to bring in to fill a hole or replace due to injury. You think you are not transparent but clearly you are. Even if we won the Super Bowl you would be sure to give the players and Rivera the credit and say we did it in spite of Hurney. So really you are the mindless one who fails to see things objectively outside of your already made up agenda.

[run-run-pass-punt]

I thought we were trying to be that other team in that division.

[Davidson Deac II]

8 minutes ago, Paintballr said:

I don’t want to be “that guy”, but her experience is and should be questioned. 

She joined the team in 1999 as a TopCat cordinator. So in 19 years she has gone from that to COO running a now valued $2.3 billion business?

I appreciate someone who has worked their way up at a company (I’m the same way, started part time and moved up in 12 years), but I’m not a damn COO.

Does she has experience before joining the top cats of running a business? On the panthers site on her bio, it credits her for working with marketing around the fan experience, and stadium operations. Other than that? 

With sources saying the operation side was like a circus, like it or not she helped “run that”. If you just purchased a $2.3 billion investment, do you want someone who has no experience running it, and with current reputation of it being a clown show? 

In fairness, Richardson himself went from playing football to being CEO of a major food services company in about the same amount of time.  I don't know if she is qualified to do the job, or she is just one of JR's favorites.  But 19 years isn't an unreasonable amount of time for a talented person to move up the ladder.  And none of us know if she is talented enough to do the job.  

[Paintballr]

56 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

In fairness, Richardson himself went from playing football to being CEO of a major food services company in about the same amount of time.  I don't know if she is qualified to do the job, or she is just one of JR's favorites.  But 19 years isn't an unreasonable amount of time for a talented person to move up the ladder.  And none of us know if she is talented enough to do the job.  

Richardson’s way was not the usual way. He took the bonus money he got from the super bowl and invested in Hardee’s as a franchise owner. He then leveraged that money and continued to open more franchises. 

It wasn’t like JR quit football and said “I’m going to start my own concept from scratch”. He saw someone (Wilbur Hardee) and invested in the idea of Hardee’s. Over 19 years he grew that franchise with his business partner into 500 locations. During that time even himself was never the CEO until many years later. 

 

This situation would be like JR taking a Line cook from one of his Hardee’s locations, and saying in 19 years you become the COO of the entire company.

 

[TheRed]

Did you guys hear that the Browns once fired Bill Belichick?

Let's just shape our entire FO out of fired Browns executives.

[Lumps]

6 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Team presidents handle the business side of the front office. Marketing plans, execution, etc. They don't touch football decisions. This guy has been consulting for other sports franchises for a long time. Could bring in new ideas. 

Been saying it forever this is such a fun time to be a Panthers fan with all the new poo about to happen.

JR hasn’t had a new idea since Down With The Sickness by Disturbed came out in 1999.

[Jon Snow]

2 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Wrong like usual. What he did was look at the spots we needed to replace due to player losses and not overpaying for guys like Norwell. Then he went.out and plugged most of the holes with guys as good or better than we had except for Norwell. Then he showed patience not jumping ahead in the draft and wasting draft picks while getting us, by early estimates, a good crop of players that fill additional needs. Then he went in free agency and filled in with guys like Anderson which again is an upgrade over Stewart. 

You are the one with the agenda twisting everything to fit your negative agenda.

Truth is you have to have a number of points of evaluation like now see who else we need to bring in to fill a hole or replace due to injury. You think you are not transparent but clearly you are. Even if we won the Super Bowl you would be sure to give the players and Rivera the credit and say we did it in spite of Hurney. So really you are the mindless one who fails to see things objectively outside of your already made up agenda.

Lol, dide, you are the one with the agenda.  Trying to make everything he does into something extraordinary that other GM's haven't done or thought of.  You can call those things great, I call it part of the job requirements.  I'll decide if it's great if and when it turns out that way.  

There is no amount of bs that can you pull out of your ass to make Hurney a competent GM.  Even you don't believe half the crap you spew.  So please spare the conversion tactics for someone else.

PS, you have not offered one item of fact to conclude he's done a great job.  Just your opinion.  

[rayzor]

6 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

Nobody would have said a word if it was an unqualified male who was appointed to run things at an interim level. You can tell how screwed up society is when the same people who are disgusted by Richardsons sexism turn around and react in this way and don't even see how obvious it is. Like the comments regarding creepy old Richardson immediately followed up with comments about wanting to see the ass of the victim.

if it was someone who started out as a water boy, i can guarantee you that we would be calling him the waterboy.

[VGcollector]

cant be to bad. the browns suck but people still come out to support. part of his marketing (end sarcasm)