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Eric Washington, Marquis Haynes, and the evolution of the D


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2 minutes ago, Rags said:

Shaq and Luke can blitz too.

Jackson and Gaulden also can get into the back field.

Haynes works on improving his coverage skills to just competent, it's gonna make it harder for team to identify blitzes.

I'm stoked.

 

    Throw in Hall, and Obada, and that is a poo ton of speed we can put out there. The question becomes, is there a formation we can conceivably use to get them all on the field together?

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43 minutes ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    That gives us what, 6 DEs, (Not counting Haynes.) and 5 DTs counting Norton. Not sure we can keep them all. Going to be interesting watching this unfold. Does Obada still get that European Exemption? Cuz if we put him on the PS, he is going to get poached.

 

    One way or another. If we wanted too, we could put a good deal of speed on the field on 3rd downs. 

Agreed.

DE1: Addison, Hall

DE2: Peppers, Horton

Pass Rush Specialist: Obada

UT: KK, Butler

NT: Poe, Love, Norton

WLB: Shaq, TD (suspension)

MLB: Luke, Mayo

Joker: Haynes 

Special Teamers LB: Jacob, Chuck Norris

S (since we do not play with strict roles): Adams, Searcy, Jones, Gaulden

CB: Jackson, Bradberry, Cockrell, Elder, Gunter, Seymour

 

Dline packages 

Norm package:

Addison, KK, Poe, Pep

Sub package:

Hall, Butler, Love, Horton

Power:

KK, Butler, Poe, Pep

NASCAR:

Obada, Pep, Butler, KK

 

I just love the possibilities with our defense right now.

 

 

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1 hour ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

     Does Obada still get that European Exemption? Cuz if we put him on the PS, he is going to get poached.

 

Yes.  He's already been assigned to us for the 2018 season.

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3 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    Between OTAs, TC, and especially PreSeason, there should be plenty of opportunities to judge where he needs to play to get the best out of him.

 

    I really think he and Obada are going to get lots of attention in the next few months. If we can keep these two off of the Practice Squad, it makes us better. And I can live with that.

 

     I have heard stories about both of them having great "Get offs". That they look like they know the snap count they get in the backfield so quickly.

 

    All I know is that Dallas absolutely hated losing Obada. And anything that irks them, tickles me. So I have that going for me.

Obada really stood out to me last preseason. I have guarded optimism for him, as so few male it. 

I love his effort, and motor. I'm praying he develops for us.

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8 hours ago, ncfan said:

This defense is going to look waaaay different than we have seen under Rivera

1. Starting with the DBs.  Rivera has always had zone heavy DB scheme defenses.  Now Washington is wanting to go a little more man.

 

I think your going to see our defense evolve to what many across the league have gone to lately.  Which is the Seattle defense with more man DBs and a use of the Joker.

 

In comes Marquis Haynes.

The joker is used across the league a Whole lot more here recently.  A lot started with Seattle and NE.  Then you saw the seattle scheme go to Atlanta and SF.  Along with the raiders using the same.

All are 4-3 defenses but one of the LBs is a stud edge rusher.  You saw this in NE with Jamie Collins prior to them trading them.  Kalil Mack (who was named probowl OLB AND DE)  and Atlanta with Beasley.

Haynes is a damn good athlete. I remember following him when he was being recruited by UNC.  Dude is a special athlete.  He didnt post the 40 that some expected but he is a jet.  He was a stud HS track guy.  In addition for edge rusher, i couldn't give 2 fugs about a 40 time.  IMO the 10 yard split time is a 1,000 times more important because it helps show how they burst out which is the important thing for a rusher.  Plus he has the strength (if anyone hasnt seen him bullrush over everyone favorite from last year, Cam Robinson)

Haynes is also said to be slender. At 235, but in a interview here lately he mentioned he is bulking up to 245 for playing weight.   There is another guy who gives us fit in Atlanta who was a 240 pound DE at clemson and has become a stud in the joker LB role.  Now I dont think he will put up the #s as Beasley.  I am excited to see how he is used and expect to see him get some sacks here in the future.  I hated the pick at first, but really warming up to it now

 

To be honest Marquis Haynes is a really good pass rusher and I love the fit on this team. He is similar as far as frame to Vic Beasley, but Vic is very explosive, a lot more explosive than Haynes. I think Haynes will do a great job with applying pressure this season but I don’t see a high volume in sacks. Just adding the speed element on the outside with Haynes can make a difference in this division in the future.

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