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Could Norv Turner Possibly Be Implementing A New Approach To His Scheme?


Saca312

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People talk about systems like they are not adjustable to personnel like some stiff kungfu movie, each having a rigid style. 

Weve seen many coaches from the same systems run different versions and feature tightends or no tightends, pass catching backs and short passes or power backs and deep passes— 

a prime recent example is Philadelphia,.. they run the same system as when Chip Kelly was there, Doug Peterson adjusted it to Carson Wentz style of play, and interjects the blur stuff from time to time but not all the time like chip. Doug was smart enough to change his offense to fit Nick Foles style after an ugly game and they came out on top.

Norv will change and adapt— I hate when people start with Air Coryell or WCO or whatever— the game is so much more evolved like Mixed Martial arts instead of some stiff old styles that can’t change and just get you beat.

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7 minutes ago, tondi said:

We definitely need a big back to run straight into the line for two yards on 1st or 2nd and 10.  That play was money 10 or 12 times a game. 

IMO a big back would only be useful in goal line or short yardage situations to relieve Cam of these duties 

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1 hour ago, JARROD said:

People talk about systems like they are not adjustable to personnel like some stiff kungfu movie, each having a rigid style. 

Weve seen many coaches from the same systems run different versions and feature tightends or no tightends, pass catching backs and short passes or power backs and deep passes— 

a prime recent example is Philadelphia,.. they run the same system as when Chip Kelly was there, Doug Peterson adjusted it to Carson Wentz style of play, and interjects the blur stuff from time to time but not all the time like chip. Doug was smart enough to change his offense to fit Nick Foles style after an ugly game and they came out on top.

Norv will change and adapt— I hate when people start with Air Coryell or WCO or whatever— the game is so much more evolved like Mixed Martial arts instead of some stiff old styles that can’t change and just get you beat.

Good points that make sense to me. 

Most of us are still a little shell shocked from Shula. What you described is what a really good OC can do. 

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5 hours ago, Saca312 said:

Since I just finished up writing on DJ Moore (just need @Jeremy Igo to publish it), I thought I'd share and discuss something that's been on my mind while writing.

From the looks of things, Norv Turner seems to be going against his old premonitions in the type of WR that fits his scheme. Rather than a big-bodied ISO receiving specialist, he choose one who currently specializes in the short-intermediate range and after the catch.

What this probably indicates is a shift in Norv's philosophy. While I'm sure Air Coryell will be a large part of his repertoire, I also feel like he's looking to modernize his offense to fit today's NFL.

First off, if anything, we pretty much have athletes all over the field. Only guy remotely close to Norv's big WR is Funchess. Now, it appears we have a diverse set of guys who specialize in quickness and YAC in Samuel, Moore, CMC, Byrd, etc.

And of course, if you've seen Norv's photo with Moore during his pro-day, it was clear he was completely in love. For that, it makes me believe that Turner may honestly be considering something new to his scheme, which I would welcome with open arms. 

Finally, you have Ron Rivera's comments during his presser, where he mentions Moore will see the F-slot and the occasional Z. Seems like a change in philosophy in all honesty.

So, what are your thoughts?

 

Norv Turner is hideous looking  

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5 hours ago, hepcat said:

I think this season will be a disaster because the Panthers are absolute garbage every other season. 2019 will be fun though

I have to agree, the Panthers are good every other season. Even though the Panthers were 11-5, last year seemed like a down year. 

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