Move from 24 to 15

[RumHam]

fug Fitzpatrick. Could easily see Tampa nabbing him instead of James and if they do that, we need to be concerned with moving up. I just have a strong feeling Hurney makes this happen. 

[RumHam]

I mean if we picking at #32 in next year's draft, it's basically like not having a first at all anyways. #AllIn

[Panthero]

God, I hate trade ups. With the hit rate in the draft, you maximize your number of picks, controlling for round of course. Law of large numbers people.

[steven8989]

2 hours ago, RumHam said:

fug Fitzpatrick. Could easily see Tampa nabbing him instead of James and if they do that, we need to be concerned with moving up. I just have a strong feeling Hurney makes this happen. 

Dude the Derwin James infatuation is getting old, we are not giving up that much to get him. Isn't there someone else you can see us actually drafting and not dreaming about.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

3 hours ago, Bigchipper said:

Looking at the trade value chart, a jump like that is around 310 points.  Our second round pick is 350 points.  My guess is we'd have to get rid of our second, which ain't happening.

Have you met Marty Hurney? He'll give up a 2nd and one of our 3rds. And maybe next year's first.

[brandon_87]

3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yep, probably our 2nd or both 3rds. 

2 3rds and probably swap late round picks or something stupid sounds about right, if Hurney gave up our second I'd be fuging pissed

[Panthero]

2 hours ago, Panthero said:

God, I hate trade ups. With the hit rate in the draft, you maximize your number of picks, controlling for round of course. Law of large numbers people.

This draft has three rounds of quality players. No point trading away a potential starter for a marginally better player. Got some Hurney jrs. up in this mug.

[panthers55]

After Hurney's failed trades in the past you can bet he is sticking at 24 and getting the most bang for his buck. 

[Woodie]

1 hour ago, panthers55 said:

After Hurney's failed trades in the past you can bet he is sticking at 24 and getting the most bang for his buck. 

Yep!  When he signed back with us, he said one of the things he learned from watching Gettleman is to be patient.  So, I don't think you will see him revert and panic by trading a valuable asset to move up.  

 

[Shocker]

More value to move down IMO.  

[unicar15]

There are pro bowl caliber safeties still on the market. Safeties are going to fall like rocks and idt anyone is going up to get them. I’m starting to think guys like Tony Pauline may be right...I also think that if it’s down to James and one of the corners that hurney likes...he’s gonna go corner. Fitzpatrick is another story bc he can play essentially any position in the secondary. I just don’t see Hurney spending a 1st on a true safety when guys like Boston, Reid are still out there. Corner is much more valuable.

[Panthro]

16 hours ago, tarheelpride said:

Maybe I’m naive, but I think a 3rd can do it. If we trade up, i think it’ll be for DJ Moore. We’d have to jump Dallas to get him. 

 

That’s the only scenario I can see us trading up

We don't like DJ Moore as much as everyone thinks we do.

[Doyle]

16 hours ago, chknwing said:

Hurney is trading next years 1st

Please don’t even joke about this.  It’s I still have nightmares about not having a first round pick two drafts in a row and nothing to show for it.   

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, unicar15 said:

There are pro bowl caliber safeties still on the market. Safeties are going to fall like rocks and idt anyone is going up to get them. I’m starting to think guys like Tony Pauline may be right...I also think that if it’s down to James and one of the corners that hurney likes...he’s gonna go corner. Fitzpatrick is another story bc he can play essentially any position in the secondary. I just don’t see Hurney spending a 1st on a true safety when guys like Boston, Reid are still out there. Corner is much more valuable.

Normally I agree but James is a physical anomaly and worth a first rounder. I would pick a corner over any other safety in the first.