Wide Receivers we face in 2018

[WOW!!]

So Trill you want to get in shootouts with teams with better offensive talent?? Okay..lol

[CPF4LIFE]

58 minutes ago, panther4life said:

Might have to add Ridley and Moore to that list if Ravens/Cowoboys go WR in round 1.

I will say this tho, the last 3 winners of the South also led south in PPG.

Eagles and Patriots were both in super bowl and finished 1 and 2 in PPG last year.

In 2016 the Falcons led the league in points and were in the super bowl. The saints finished 2nd and the patriots led the AFC at 3rd overall and won the Super Bowl.

In 2015 We led the league in points and were in the Super Bowl. 

14 the patriots led league in PPG and won the Super Bowl 

13 the Broncos led the league in PPG and made it the Super Bowl

Having the ability to score points is never a bad thing and could easily be argued it’s more important than a good defense. After all teams build around a QB first and foremost for a reason.

 

 

Might want to inform Rivera of this, then again he probably already knows and still thinks the same thing will work eventually. 

[Isaac]

52 minutes ago, panther4life said:

Might have to add Ridley and Moore to that list if Ravens/Cowoboys go WR in round 1.

I will say this tho, the last 3 winners of the South also led south in PPG.

Eagles and Patriots were both in super bowl and finished 1 and 2 in PPG last year.

In 2016 the Falcons led the league in points and were in the super bowl. The saints finished 2nd and the patriots led the AFC at 3rd overall and won the Super Bowl.

In 2015 We led the league in points and were in the Super Bowl. 

14 the patriots led league in PPG and won the Super Bowl 

13 the Broncos led the league in PPG and made it the Super Bowl

Having the ability to score points is never a bad thing and could easily be argued it’s more important than a good defense. After all teams build around a QB first and foremost for a reason.

 

 

Our 15-1 was an anomaly and we did make it to Super Bowl with highest PPG.  You know who won that ever so fateful Super Bowl?  The no. 1 defence.  Last year, Philly was what, no. 2 overall? Falcons led league in PPG, lost to better defence.  Every one of your examples that made it to Bowl riding on scoring, ran into top 5 defence, mostly top 3, and lost.  Yes, being able to score on the opportunities created by defence is stellar, but if your offense can't put up in the big game, whats the point?  You know how many people have basically forgotten about 2015 Panthers?  Most people.  Denver Broncos crushing Cam Newton is remembered.  Not our 30+ PPG.  Set up a solid secondary and top 3 defense so turnovers let us pound the run game and score that way.  Cam having to play catchup the whole game is a nightmare.  

[top dawg]

1 hour ago, WOW!! said:

You have a better chance at stopping them with a top 5 defense than you do of getting in a shoot out with a offense that isn't as good as there's is...

With a better wide receiving corps, we would have beaten the Saints in the playoffs. We should have beaten the Eagles regardless. The Bucs are our bitch, and we routinely win one against Atlanta. This, without a serviceable secondary which we may have now. Not saying that we can't stand to add to the secondary, but until we infuse the receiving corps with some stone cold killers, we're not going to get a trophy.

[pantherclaw]

So suddenly were facing elite receivers?

SMH

[iamhubby1]

3 hours ago, WOW!! said:

Even if you get Ridely it still won't be better than those teams...  Ridely is no Julio, Evan's, Thomas, Brown or OBJ.. At least we can have a comparable secondary to stop those teams . 

 

    Ridley/Moore, Funch, Wright, CmC, and Olsen, Cam, with Norv. I think we can score some points.

 

2 hours ago, WOW!! said:

You have a better chance at stopping them with a top 5 defense than you do of getting in a shoot out with a offense that isn't as good as there's is...

 

    If we have to worry about all these high flying Offenses. Would it not behoove us to improve our own? You cannot beat good Offenses using only your Defense. You absolutely need your Offense to help as well.

 

    We can add Ridley/Moore in the 1st, and add a good S in the 2nd, and be a really good, well balanced, team. And is that not what we all want? Discounting a WR in the 1st is a mistake in my book. Mainly because it is a passing league, and you can never have enough quality WRs.

[iamhubby1]

42 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

So suddenly were facing elite receivers?

SMH

 

    Yupperz. Every team we play is just chock full with em. Gonna be a long season my Huddle friend.

[weyco2000]

2 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    Ridley/Moore, Funch, Wright, CmC, and Olsen, Cam, with Norv. I think we can score some points.

 

 

    If we have to worry about all these high flying Offenses. Would it not behoove us to improve our own? You cannot beat good Offenses using only your Defense. You absolutely need your Offense to help as well.

 

    We can add Ridley/Moore in the 1st, and add a good S in the 2nd, and be a really good, well balanced, team. And is that not what we all want? Discounting a WR in the 1st is a mistake in my book. Mainly because it is a passing league, and you can never have enough quality WRs.

If Ridley drops and I don’t think he will, there’s no discussion on who the pick should be. Jeez, some of these other posts comparing a guy that’s never stepped on an NFL field too Pro Bowlers is a ridiculous comparison. Not to mention the fact Ridley had a RB playing QB.

[WOW!!]

3 hours ago, top dawg said:

With a better wide receiving corps, we would have beaten the Saints in the playoffs. We should have beaten the Eagles regardless. The Bucs are our bitch, and we routinely win one against Atlanta. This, without a serviceable secondary which we may have now. Not saying that we can't stand to add to the secondary, but until we infuse the receiving corps with some stone cold killers, we're not going to get a trophy.

We already have a better Wr Corp now than our playoff team. .. So what's the point?? The Wr corp has already been infused with more talent than last year... Unless we get  Ridely maybe we jump a couple more notches. . The difference would be greater if we infuse our secondary with starting talent.. Pair that with our already strong front 7 and we instantly become a superbowl contender...

[WOW!!]

2 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    Ridley/Moore, Funch, Wright, CmC, and Olsen, Cam, with Norv. I think we can score some points.

 

 

    If we have to worry about all these high flying Offenses. Would it not behoove us to improve our own? You cannot beat good Offenses using only your Defense. You absolutely need your Offense to help as well.

 

    We can add Ridley/Moore in the 1st, and add a good S in the 2nd, and be a really good, well balanced, team. And is that not what we all want? Discounting a WR in the 1st is a mistake in my book. Mainly because it is a passing league, and you can never have enough quality WRs.

I think with Norv, Cam, Olsen, Funch, Smith, Wright, CmC, Byrd, and Samuels.. We can score already.  The problem is looking at the secondary now.. We can't stop them...

So it would "Behoove" us with a Already Strong front 7.. And A strong Secondary draft to make some upgrades in the backend of the defense .. And maybe have one of the best defenses in league and stop these motherfugers...

Maybe some of you Wr ppl can understand we've made some upgrades to the offense already .. 

I know you think Ridely and Moore are great.. I disagree.. They have potential but I don't see instant day 1 starter in pen from any wr in this draft...

 

[WOW!!]

4 hours ago, Isaac said:

Our 15-1 was an anomaly and we did make it to Super Bowl with highest PPG.  You know who won that ever so fateful Super Bowl?  The no. 1 defence.  Last year, Philly was what, no. 2 overall? Falcons led league in PPG, lost to better defence.  Every one of your examples that made it to Bowl riding on scoring, ran into top 5 defence, mostly top 3, and lost.  Yes, being able to score on the opportunities created by defence is stellar, but if your offense can't put up in the big game, whats the point?  You know how many people have basically forgotten about 2015 Panthers?  Most people.  Denver Broncos crushing Cam Newton is remembered.  Not our 30+ PPG.  Set up a solid secondary and top 3 defense so turnovers let us pound the run game and score that way.  Cam having to play catchup the whole game is a nightmare.  

Ppl also forget that highest scoring offense was helped a lot by a defense that got more TO than anybody in the league, Gave the offense incredible short fields to work with and was top 10 in most if not all defensive categories...

[top dawg]

1 hour ago, WOW!! said:

We already have a better Wr Corp now than our playoff team. .. So what's the point?? The Wr corp has already been infused with more talent than last year... Unless we get  Ridely maybe we jump a couple more notches. . The difference would be greater if we infuse our secondary with starting talent.. Pair that with our already strong front 7 and we instantly become a superbowl contender...

We have a better secondary too. What? You're not sold? Well that's how I feel about our receiving corps. 

Plus, there are still options at DB in FA and the draft---better options than wide receivers, I'd say. After maybe a half dozen receivers in this draft class, I don't see a whole lot of potential impact this season. But, who knows? You probably can double (or possibly even triple) that for DBs, between experienced vets in FA and draft prospects with good potential.

[BigSyke]

8 hours ago, panther4life said:

Might have to add Ridley and Moore to that list if Ravens/Cowoboys go WR in round 1.

I will say this tho, the last 3 winners of the South also led south in PPG.

Eagles and Patriots were both in super bowl and finished 1 and 2 in PPG last year.

In 2016 the Falcons led the league in points and were in the super bowl. The saints finished 2nd and the patriots led the AFC at 3rd overall and won the Super Bowl.

In 2015 We led the league in points and were in the Super Bowl. 

14 the patriots led league in PPG and won the Super Bowl 

13 the Broncos led the league in PPG and made it the Super Bowl

Having the ability to score points is never a bad thing and could easily be argued it’s more important than a good defense. After all teams build around a QB first and foremost for a reason.

 

 

 

In this new era where offense is favored by the rules and is a gloried  Air Raid league to make the NFL more "exciting", Offense is more important by a slight edge.(until you face a better defense in SB.....) 

So yeah I agree go all out on offense and fix secondary!

[The Lobo]

10 hours ago, Isaac said:

So, as we begin our sofa Coaching seasons, lets take a look at the upcoming top Wide Outs we (most likely) have to play against in 2018 

Mike Evans x2

Julio x2

Michael Thomas x2

Antonio Brown

Jarvis/Gordon

A.J. Green

Odell

Alshon

 

 

Not to beat a dead horse, but I would say if Ron and Hurndog 2.0 don't seek out players to bolster a weak secondary, we have settled for a losing/almost good mentality.

Hit me with your best takes.  

 

Very good point. I didn’t really look at it this way, plus the qbs for those teams. We need to shore up our db situation. I used to be all about O in the first, now you have swayed me.