Who is the biggest Panthers bust of the last five drafts?

[X-Clown]

14 minutes ago, RumHam said:

You can poo on all of DG's drafts you want, but you're reaching to poo on Hurney's which is triggering me and isn't a good sign. Vernon Butler is possibly the biggest bust and that should come with a first round pick. Bust in the second shouldn't really count, and Ealy had accomplished more than Butler. He's just not on the team. I'd have to say it's Benjamin. Had a fantastic rookie season, gets hurt and we go to Super Bowl, underachieves and complains and eventually gets traded. Having said that, trade up for Derwin James and we'll avoid that mistake again.

A bust in my eyes is someone who rarely sees the field or is extremely unproductive with opportunities that they get. Kelvin had over 2000 yards his first two healthy years and 16 TDs. He could be maddening with some of his lapses and his weight issues, but "bust" isn't a fair label to put on him. We traded him because we had another receiver who played the same position for cheaper and didn't want to give him top dollar (understandably so). But to call him a bust puts him in a category of a Carlos Rogers, Mike Williams, or a Dwayne Jarrett. If he were a bust, we wouldn't have been able to get a 3rd round pick for him.

[bewonee]

not sure i agree with ealy, he is a good rotational piece. terell mclain, butler, are two who stand out. we havent really had any hardcore busts in the top 2 rounds in a while all have been contributors even if it isnt as much as we had hoped.

[Panthro]

I mean... how would you rank last five 1st Rders CMC, Shaq, Butler, KB, or Star

For me 

1. Star
2. KB 
3. CMC
4. Shaq
5. Butler

 

2nd Rders

1. KK
2. Bradberry
3. Funchess
4. Moton
5. Samuel
6. Ealy

So it is between Butler and Ealy and I would lean Ealy. This doesn't account for missed prospects at those spots. 

[firefox1234]

I want to say Butler just cause we missed out ima potential HOF TE when we picked him but Ealy probably fits the description best....

[BrianS]

7 minutes ago, Panthro said:

I mean... how would you rank last five 1st Rders CMC, Shaq, Butler, KB, or Star

For me 

1. Star
2. KB 
3. CMC
4. Shaq
5. Butler

 

2nd Rders

1. KK
2. Bradberry
3. Funchess
4. Moton
5. Samuel
6. Ealy

So it is between Butler and Ealy and I would lean Ealy. This doesn't account for missed prospects at those spots. 

See?  Exactly what I was thinking . . . I don't call any of those picks "busts" tbh.  Ok, Ealy doesn't play for us but he's still in the league.  Butler only a couple seasons in, lot of injuries.  If that injury history continues, sure, he could end up a bust, but if Butler puts that behind him and becomes a regular rotational player for us I can't call him much of a bust either.

Honestly, those 11 picks look like actual NFL players . . . with some of them still needing to "prove it" (I'm looking at you Taylor Moton and Curtis Samuel!)

[FuFuLamePoo]

Ridiculous calling Butler a bust when he's only played two seasons and has shown plenty of promise when actually getting to suit up.

I guess Ealy qualifies as a decent answer

[hepcat]

Kugbila is the biggest bust, literally and figuratively. Butler is still too early to say. He’s stuck behind Short for playing time, but hasn’t done much in the time he’s been on the field. He might be a guy Panthers fans call a bust then he goes somewhere else and blossoms.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

did i really read two people in this thread refer to hunter henry as a hall of fame TE

[frash.exe]

if the panthers offense could’ve gotten their heads out of their asses for a few minutes, ealy would’ve been the superbowl MVP and even if he wasn’t that one performance he put on would’ve been worth the pick it took to draft him

y’all fixate on draft picks too fuging much

[Palmetto]

5 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

I perfectly understand the difference. But at 6'4 330 lb first round draft pick needs to be stout enough to play the position. He's bigger than the guy who played it the past 5 years. It was a bust of a selection if the first rounder can't be a starter.  Poe doesn't play the prototypical NT way either. He's a excels with his speed more than simply anchoring to take on blockers. On the Falcons it was Grady Jarrett who played the NT time this past year.

Pretty sound logic!!  cant shake the feeling that I've heard it before

[MHS831]

For those of you bashing Worley, here is the deal--he was a reach in the third--we didn't draft BPA, we did not draft BPA at the position we needed--we drafted a type.  He fit our mold.   I am guessing he was about a 5th round talent. 

He was forced into the starting rotation as a rookie.  He was not a bust--he was simply put into a "no win" situation.

 

[Khyber53]

You know, going back over the drafts since 2013, if you look at say third rounders and above, we didn't hit any real clinkers. And add in 4th round (not many of those) and you can kinda make a case for Kugbila being a bust, but that was a roster depth signing and development reach.

And 2015 was a draft class for us across the board that shined. 

Honestly, we haven't had many busts in recent years. A few that didn't rise up above their potential, but no meteoric flameouts either. I think the OP is just stirring the pot.

[thefuzz]

2 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

You know, going back over the drafts since 2013, if you look at say third rounders and above, we didn't hit any real clinkers. And add in 4th round (not many of those) and you can kinda make a case for Kugbila being a bust, but that was a roster depth signing and development reach.

And 2015 was a draft class for us across the board that shined. 

Honestly, we haven't had many busts in recent years. A few that didn't rise up above their potential, but no meteoric flameouts either. I think the OP is just stirring the pot.

Some brought up injury, and IMO that can lead to a prospect never living up to his billing.  Clowney was on his way for a bit, but finally got healthy.

Either way, we haven't had many "busts" lately, but the three worst were Brown, Edwards, and Otah, at least over the past 10 years.

I'm not a fan of the Big Vern pick, but I sorta get it.  I didn't love the Shaq pick either, but I sorta get it.  At least Shaq is seeing the field a lot more though.

 

[thefuzz]

1 hour ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

did i really read two people in this thread refer to hunter henry as a hall of fame TE

And yes...I had to re-read that a couple times.