Josh Norris gives his prediction for Panthers at #24

[Rags]

Just now, Growl said:

This team needs a CB who can play legitimate press man. Jackson is a soft, flat footed zone CB whose armwork isn't much better.

 

"that totally fits our scheme!" Then it shouldn't. Your scheme should never mandate taking inferior talents.

Josh Jackson has the best ball skills in this draft. Something we've SORELY missed since Josh. We don't have any playmakers in our back 4.

I also really like Oliver, and wouldnt care if we took him, but he's almost entirely a press man corner. There's no CB in this draft that can do everything day 1 when we draft them.

[RumHam]

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[pantherclaw]

1 hour ago, Mikey818 said:

Facts about Jackson- only a 2 star recruit coming out of high school Has started only 14 games for Iowa which is not school noted for real athletic players and ran only 4.56 40 which slow for an nfl corner Might be worth fourth rounder but not first People are over celebrating the game vs Ohio st where Barrett stunk 

Look at you ignoring the ones who are paid to scout these players. (And I'm not talking about the journalist).

[Mikey818]

Just now, pantherclaw said:

Look at you ignoring the ones who are paid to scout these players. (And I'm not talking about the journalist).

My opinion only but scouts have been wrong in the past 

[crob40]

Please no safety in the first. There won’t be a safety there at 24 that shouldn’t be considered a reach imo. I would like to see: 

1: cb/ol

2: safety

3a: wr

3b:rb/de/lb

 

[Rags]

7 minutes ago, Mikey818 said:

Haha so cmc could have been a corner as he played corner in high school? Ran 4.48 and the perfect size and athleticism for the position

What

Does that have to do with anything.

You said 4.57 was slow for a corner in the NFL.

I showed you 3 probowl corners with similar speed. In the NFL.

What does McCaffrey, a running back have to do with that?

[RumHam]

Just now, crob40 said:

Please no safety in the first. There won’t be a safety there at 24 that shouldn’t be considered a reach imo. I would like to see: 

1: cb/ol

2: safety

3a: wr

3b:rb/de/lb

 

Derwin James would like a word with you

[Mikey818]

1 minute ago, Rags said:

What

Does that have to do with anything.

You said 4.57 was slow for a corner in the NFL.

I showed you 3 probowl corners with similar speed. In the NFL.

What does McCaffrey, a running back have to do with that?

 

 

13 minutes ago, Rags said:

Josh Norman ran a 4.57

Richard Sherman ran a 4.56

Casey Hayward ran a 4.57

40 times don't really mean much for zone corners.

Ok Fact is that none of these guys were first rounders In fact sherman and Norman were fifth rounders partly because of their 40  speed So that makes me question why Jackson is suddenly a first rounder with several big question marks. He may succeed like some of these slower guys but it’s a risky first round gamble 

[hepcat]

2 hours ago, Palmetto said:

Could the Pats take DJ Moore at 23

Cowboys, Ravens, Seahawks, and Patriots all figure to be interested in WRs. Highly doubt the Panthers draft a WR in the first.

[crob40]

4 minutes ago, RumHam said:

Derwin James would like a word with you

He’s gonna be gone well before 24.

[unicar15]

I like all of those guys...I feel like Jackson is the best value/fit for the pick. I wouldn’t be mad about Moore if he’s really as explosive as he’s billed to be. I think that these WRs are getting a really watered down eval compared to previous years bc of all the first round busts. Moore reminds me a lot of Deandre Hopkins..

[RumHam]

19 minutes ago, crob40 said:

He’s gonna be gone well before 24.

We need to trade up then. But either way you just said no safety is worth it at 24. I agree, the guys you listed are reaches.

[Rags]

9 minutes ago, Mikey818 said:

 

 

Ok Fact is that none of these guys were first rounders In fact sherman and Norman were fifth rounders partly because of their 40  speed So that makes me question why Jackson is suddenly a first rounder with several big question marks. He may succeed like some of these slower guys but it’s a risky first round gamble 

Because?? Of guys like Norman, Sherman and Hayward??? Zone cover and off man corners with ball skills are at a premium right now. Especially for us.

Josh Jackson's strengths are his awareness, ball skills and coverage skills. He had more than "one good game" against OSU and constantly held up well when targeted.

Combine measurables aren't everything. You need talent to go along with athleticism. 

[Mikey818]

4 minutes ago, Rags said:

Because?? Of guys like Norman, Sherman and Hayward??? Zone cover and off man corners with ball skills are at a premium right now. Especially for us.

Josh Jackson's strengths are his awareness, ball skills and coverage skills. He had more than "one good game" against OSU and constantly held up well when targeted.

Combine measurables aren't everything. You need talent to go along with athleticism. 

Not a first round risk First rounders should have few if any question marks . This guy as borderline athleticism for a corner and has only started 14 games at Iowa We are not talking about alabama or Ohio state athlete here