Playoff Thread

[pantherphan96]

On 5/10/2018 at 7:50 PM, AggieLean said:

Man, hopefully the Pels bring Rondo back. Will be tough if they max Boogie, but they have to bring him back.

King James keeps doing amazing things. Hard to believe he’s in his 14th/15th year. Bron getting better while Fat Melo about to spend the rest of his career as a 6th man. It’ll definitely be MJ/Lebron when it’s all said and done.

Love Rondo and really glad to see his career revival after that tough year with the Mavs. Think New Orleans is the perfect spot for him with two great scoring bigs.

[JakeDel5674]

On 5/10/2018 at 8:50 PM, AggieLean said:

Man, hopefully the Pels bring Rondo back. Will be tough if they max Boogie, but they have to bring him back.

King James keeps doing amazing things. Hard to believe he’s in his 14th/15th year. Bron getting better while Fat Melo about to spend the rest of his career as a 6th man. It’ll definitely be MJ/Lebron when it’s all said and done.

Isn't Rondo 32 years old going on 33? That's an interesting problem to have for the Pels. 

[JakeDel5674]

17 hours ago, pantherphan96 said:

Love Rondo and really glad to see his career revival after that tough year with the Mavs. Think New Orleans is the perfect spot for him with two great scoring bigs.

Who am I? I scored 15 points on 16 shots, had 7 turnovers, and had a -32 and the worst +/- for any player in the game today. #thisiswhatGOATsdo

[pantherphan96]

1 hour ago, JakeDel5674 said:

Who am I? I scored 15 points on 16 shots, had 7 turnovers, and had a -32 and the worst +/- for any player in the game today. #thisiswhatGOATsdo

I can't complain, Celtics are the best defensive team in the league and I'm glad LeBron played like poo today.

[pantherphan96]

1 hour ago, JakeDel5674 said:

Who am I? I scored 15 points on 16 shots, had 7 turnovers, and had a -32 and the worst +/- for any player in the game today. #thisiswhatGOATsdo

Also I can cherry pick games for MJ as well lol: see Game 1 of the 95 Semis vs the Magic. 19 points on 22 shots, 8 turnovers and a game losing turnover.

[JakeDel5674]

22 hours ago, pantherphan96 said:

Also I can cherry pick games for MJ as well lol: see Game 1 of the 95 Semis vs the Magic. 19 points on 22 shots, 8 turnovers and a game losing turnover.

LeBron has 25 games in the Playoffs where he has scored under 20 points. Jordan? Only five. 

Also, he was trash for whole Series. Like this one:

Or this one: 

 

LeBron had a whole segment dedicated to him choking in the NBA Finals on ABC's Good Morning America. I just can't. GOAT my ass. Fraud ass dude. 

2014 Finals Game 4, Heat down 2-1:

At home, chance to tie the series, LeBron scores 0 points on 0-2 shooting in the 4th. Heat go down 3-1.

LeBron scored 51 of his 141 points (36%) in the 2014 Finals when the Spurs were leading by at least 15. 51 of 81 (63%) in games 3-5. 

2015 Finals Game 4:

With a chance to go up 3-1, LeBron scores 20 points on 7-22 FG (31.8%) and scores 0 points in the 4th. Cavs lose. 2-2. 

And before you have a shitty rebuttal like "He didn't have any help in 2015. All his "good" players were injured."

Gasol + Bynum 2009 Finals:
24.6 PPG - 13.4 RPG - 2.4 BPG - 51.6% FG

Mozgov + Thompson 2015 Finals:
24.0 PPG - 20.5 RPG - 2.5 BPG - 52.6% FG

^Looks like he had plenty of help to me...............

Find some poo on Jordan like that. You won't. That's the difference.

 

 

[pantherphan96]

1 minute ago, JakeDel5674 said:

LeBron has 25 games in the Playoffs where he has scored under 20 points. Jordan? Only five. 

Also, he was trash for whole Series. Like this one:

Or this one: 

 

LeBron had a whole segment dedicated to him choking in the NBA Finals on ABC's Good Morning America. I just can't. GOAT my ass. Fraud ass dude. 

I can't make excuses for LeBron in 2011, he was terrible. However his team in 2008 was just as bad as the 2007 team he dragged to the Finals (easily the worst team to ever make the Finals) and faced a juggernaut in the Big 3 Celtics. Funny you mention that series considering his Game 7 performance in Boston, despite the loss, is considered a legendary performance.

[JakeDel5674]

5 minutes ago, pantherphan96 said:

I can't make excuses for LeBron in 2011, he was terrible. However his team in 2008 was just as bad as the 2007 team he dragged to the Finals (easily the worst team to ever make the Finals) and faced a juggernaut in the Big 3 Celtics. Funny you mention that series considering his Game 7 performance in Boston, despite the loss, is considered a legendary performance.

And his first game, BIG TIME loss was considered legendary too. Check out these stats:

LeBron's game 1 @ Boston in the 2008 ECSF:

12 points
2-18 FG
0-6 3P
10 turnovers

A historically bad performance.

Also LeBron's career field goal percentage outside of 3 feet is putrid.

Kobe's for perspective:

And I do not care for Kobe at all. 

Also, if somehow the Celtics win this Series. They will be the worst team to make the Finals. No All-Stars, backups all over the starting 5. And a Rookie that's not even in the running for Rookie of the Year. LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[pantherphan96]

11 minutes ago, JakeDel5674 said:

And his first game, BIG TIME loss was considered legendary too. Check out these stats:

LeBron's game 1 @ Boston in the 2008 ECSF:

12 points
2-18 FG
0-6 3P
10 turnovers

A historically bad performance.

Also LeBron's career field goal percentage outside of 3 feet is putrid.

 

Kobe's for perspective:

 

And I do not care for Kobe at all. 

Also, if somehow the Celtics win this Series. They will be the worst team to make the Finals. No All-Stars, backups all over the starting 5. And a Rookie that's not even in the running for Rookie of the Year. LOLZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

I agree, LeBron's jumper was easily the worst part of his game early in his career. He made some adjustments and is now a respectable spot up shooter but his true ability lies in his passing, BBIQ, and ability to cut and finish at the rim.

Kobe was a putrid jump shooter outside of midrange shots and was incredibly not clutch for one who is considered to be the GOAT or even top 5.

I still think the Cavs will win this series but I could see the Celtics upsetting them. Either way we'd get killed by the Rockets or Warriors in a 7 game series, but there is no way that this Celtics team would be the worst to ever make the Finals.

2007 Cavs Starting 5  
PG - Eric Snow
SG - Larry Hughes
SF - LeBron
PF - Drew Gooden
C - Zydrunas Ilguaskas

2018 Celtics Starting 5
PG - Terry Rozier
SG - Jaylen Brown
SF - Jayson Tatum
PF/C - Marcus Morris / Aron Baynes
PF - Al Horford

LeBron is obviously the best player on either of those starting 5 but I would take all of the rest of the Celtics starters over the rest of the Cavs starters. Not to mention solid bench and rotation players like Marcus Smart and Semi Ojeleye.

Also, Al Horford was an All-Star this year, Tatum would probably be #3 in ROY voting behind Simmons (arguably not a rookie) and Mitchell (pure volume). This team is absolutely stacked for the coming years considering how young much of it is.

Hayward is 28, Kyrie 25, Brown 21, Tatum 20, and Smart and Rozier are 24.
 

[pantherphan96]

29 minutes ago, JakeDel5674 said:

Gasol + Bynum 2009 Finals:
24.6 PPG - 13.4 RPG - 2.4 BPG - 51.6% FG

Mozgov + Thompson 2015 Finals:
24.0 PPG - 20.5 RPG - 2.5 BPG - 52.6% FG

^Looks like he had plenty of help to me...............

Find some poo on Jordan like that. You won't. That's the difference.

Lol Thompson and Mozgov combined averaged 69.4 minutes/game compared to Gasol/Bynum's 61.4 minutes/game. That's 2/3 of a full quarter of basketball of a difference.

Not to mention the difference between the 2015 Warriors team and the 2009 Magic, who only had Dwight and Rashard Lewis, and only made the Finals because KG got injured before the playoffs and they faced the 2009 Cavs whose only upgrade was replacing Eric Snow and Larry Hughes with Delonte West and Mo Williams.

[JakeDel5674]

2 minutes ago, pantherphan96 said:

I agree, LeBron's jumper was easily the worst part of his game early in his career. He made some adjustments and is now a respectable spot up shooter but his true ability lies in his passing, BBIQ, and ability to cut and finish at the rim.

Kobe was a putrid jump shooter outside of midrange shots and was incredibly not clutch for one who is considered to be the GOAT or even top 5.

I still think the Cavs will win this series but I could see the Celtics upsetting them. Either way we'd get killed by the Rockets or Warriors in a 7 game series, but there is no way that this Celtics team would be the worst to ever make the Finals.

2007 Cavs Starting 5  
PG - Eric Snow
SG - Larry Hughes
SF - LeBron
PF - Drew Gooden
C - Zydrunas Ilguaskas

2018 Celtics Starting 5
PG - Terry Rozier
SG - Jaylen Brown
SF - Jayson Tatum
PF/C - Marcus Morris / Aron Baynes
PF - Al Horford

LeBron is obviously the best player on either of those starting 5 but I would take all of the rest of the Celtics starters over the rest of the Cavs starters. Not to mention solid bench and rotation players like Marcus Smart and Semi Ojeleye.

Also, Al Horford was an All-Star this year, Tatum would probably be #3 in ROY voting behind Simmons (arguably not a rookie) and Mitchell (pure volume). This team is absolutely stacked for the coming years considering how young much of it is.

Hayward is 28, Kyrie 25, Brown 21, Tatum 20, and Smart and Rozier are 24.
 

Kobe's a better jump shooter than LeBron, and I do not think it's close on that one. 

Larry Hughes averaged 16 ppg, Illgauskas averaged 12 ppg, Drew Gooden averaged 14 ppg. I'm taking the Cavs starting 5 vs this current Celtics starting 5. It's not even close either. Illgauskas would have his way with Hortford inside.

Drew Gooden/Morris is a wash. LeBron would torch Tatum. Jaylen Brown and Hughes are a wash. So is Rozier & Snow. This Celtics team is worse than that Cavs team, simple as that. 

[JakeDel5674]

1 minute ago, pantherphan96 said:

Lol Thompson and Mozgov combined averaged 69.4 minutes/game compared to Gasol/Bynum's 61.4 minutes/game. That's 2/3 of a full quarter of basketball of a difference.

Not to mention the difference between the 2015 Warriors team and the 2009 Magic, who only had Dwight and Rashard Lewis, and only made the Finals because KG got injured before the playoffs and they faced the 2009 Cavs whose only upgrade was replacing Eric Snow and Larry Hughes with Delonte West and Mo Williams.

You talking about minutes though? Really? That's cool. But, facts are facts. LeBron had help that Series and poo the bed when it mattered. Could've gone up 3-1 and lost. #normalGOATshit

[pantherphan96]

1 hour ago, JakeDel5674 said:

Kobe's a better jump shooter than LeBron, and I do not think it's close on that one. 

Larry Hughes averaged 16 ppg, Illgauskas averaged 12 ppg, Drew Gooden averaged 14 ppg. I'm taking the Cavs starting 5 vs this current Celtics starting 5. It's not even close either. Illgauskas would have his way with Hortford inside.

Drew Gooden/Morris is a wash. LeBron would torch Tatum. Jaylen Brown and Hughes are a wash. So is Rozier & Snow. This Celtics team is worse than that Cavs team, simple as that. 

lol ok. Baynes would defend Ilgauskas while Horford took Gooden, no big on the Cavs would be able to guard Horford. Rozier is already better than Snow, as is Brown over Hughes. Brown and Tatum are averaging a combined 36 ppg in the playoffs. The 07 Cavs only chance of winning would be getting 40+ from LeBron every night.

Keep underestimating this Celtics team, they went 14-8 without Kyrie (extrapolates to a 52 win season) and the whole is much greater than the sum of the parts. The young guys aren't playing like rookies and they have a top 3 coach.

[JakeDel5674]

21 hours ago, pantherphan96 said:

lol ok. Baynes would defend Ilgauskas while Horford took Gooden, no big on the Cavs would be able to guard Horford. Rozier is already better than Snow, as is Brown over Hughes. Brown and Tatum are averaging a combined 36 ppg in the playoffs. The 07 Cavs only chance of winning would be getting 40+ from LeBron every night.

Keep underestimating this Celtics team, they went 14-8 without Kyrie (extrapolates to a 52 win season) and the whole is much greater than the sum of the parts. The young guys aren't playing like rookies and they have a top 3 coach.

Celtics team still isn't good. Atlanta let Hortford go for nothing. It's backups, and Al Hortford and Jaylen Brown. The Cavs 07 team would matchup well with them. And no, prime LeBron would not need 40+. I know one thing, if LeBron loses this Series to these bum ass dudes, this will hurt his legacy big time.