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Report: Panthers Are Drafting A Defensive Back In The First


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47 minutes ago, JayNasty said:

Safety please. 

I actually think the corner position is already better than last year.  

I agree.  If you take Bradberry's 2016 stats and look at Cockrell's 2017 stats, you can see how well they play in the zone scheme.  Wilks took them away from their strengths with the blitz philosophy.

With Gunter (a good zone CB) and Seymour (a young CB with potential) and Corn and Capt, is CB really a need?  Can you improve your CB play by getting more out of the front 4?  Yes.  So make everyone better and find a guy who can get to the passer--a DE, preferably, but not necessarily.

If i were GM, I would draft DE and S, even if the DE pool is not good.  The rest of the draft would be offensive. 

My mind changes, but if you can find a DE that can rotate in with Hall, Horton, and Addison, you can save Peppers for his 20 snaps of pass rushing.  The future matters, and Hall is a question mark.  You do not want to pay DEs in free agency and you do not want rookies starting. 

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14 minutes ago, CarolinaSamurai said:

Bill Voth just said it's unlikely on his Grill Bill. I trust him 1000 times more than this guy. 

We don't draft Safety's in the first at all and barely CB there for that matter.

Not sure how many times that needs to be said for it to sink in. Check out Rivera's S players/picks his entire coaching career and something should sink in if you have any sort of brain material for something to sink into.Also has to do with philosophy/scheme.

I think it would only happen during a trade back but of the two CB is more likely for the first round.

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2 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

so which would benefit us more...a rookie CB or a rookie Safety ?

Probably Safety, but which is more likely to be better value at 24? Probably CB

I'm not convinced that the safety we would get at 24 will be rated that much higher than the one we can get at 55, whereas the drop off for CB is probably higher.

The problem with CB is we just signed one in free agency and our other one we used a high pick on and played very well his rookie year. Was last year a trend or an exception?  Coaches have to decide that.  IF you are comfortable with your outside CBs are you going to spend a first on a slot or backup?

 

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CB is still a big need imo. We just need our CB’s to make plays on the ball which last season is something they struggled to do overall. What happens if we have injuries at CB in training camp or the regular season? Who replaces Bradberry? Are we sure Ross Cockrell can cover Julio, Mike Evans, and Michael Thomas? I’m not sure about that. I like the depth with Gunter, Seymour, and Cockrell but I don’t know if I want to depend on them for a 16 game season if something happens. CB should definitely be in play at 24. Captain also had a horrible season last year too. 

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3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:
3 hours ago, JayNasty said:

I actually think the corner position is already better than last year.  

Better than last year? We fielded arguably the worst secondary in the league last year. That’s a mighty low bar to clear.

I think you're both right. Seymour was already taking starts away from Worley, and I think Cockrell will rotate in when we're in zone coverage and do very well in that role. BUT... a legit starter would be damned nice to get.

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La canfora is always throwing poo hoping it'll stick. Back when Peyton was a free agent he reported that he was going to sign with Miami and was watching him throw balls to the receivers on the practice field as he speaks. Only to have Peyton be in Denver sign a contract like an hour later. 

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Voth thinks CB is the most likely pick at 24 and if you look at the history of the 24th pick for the last few years it has very frequently been a CB accross the league. He doesn't see a safety here because there's not enough value for our scheme.

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