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Another scandal on Mint Street???

Cookie Lyon

By Cookie Lyon,
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panthers55 Grand Master

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35 minutes ago, PanthersBigD said:

Then you warn, document and fire them. It's not that difficult. 

Much harder than you suggest. My brother is an employment attorney and he would have a field day with this. One person's sense of appropriateness is not close to another. I can see all kinds of discrimination lawsuits for targeting employees with ambiguous undefined language which can be applied unequally depending on the supervisor's interpretation of what is appropriate since they each have to define what is appropriate.

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38 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Much harder than you suggest. My brother is an employment attorney and he would have a field day with this. One person's sense of appropriateness is not close to another. I can see all kinds of discrimination lawsuits for targeting employees with ambiguous undefined language which can be applied unequally depending on the supervisor's interpretation of what is appropriate since they each have to define what is appropriate.

And yet, it works for one of the largest manufacturers in the U.S.. Weird. 

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9 minutes ago, PanthersBigD said:

And yet, it works for one of the largest manufacturers in the U.S.. Weird. 

We don't know who it works for. This is the CEO talking about what she did and how great it was. We don't know any specifics like how much each supervisor had to define appropriate, what kind of complaints HR has had over it from employees, who if any employees have been fired or disciplined for non-compliance or whether any lawsuits have been leveled by disgruntled employees over this lack of clarity. All things which would be kept private. No this is a great theory and empowerment policy but the devil is in the details and this has none of that.  Of course legal and HR had issues with it. They had to deal with any problems that occurred. The reason they went along is easy. The CEO is their boss and they complied. You ever work in a top 100 corporation? I have....

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2 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

We don't know who it works for. This is the CEO talking about what she did and how great it was. We don't know any specifics like how much each supervisor had to define appropriate, what kind of complaints HR has had over it from employees, who if any employees have been fired or disciplined for non-compliance or whether any lawsuits have been leveled by disgruntled employees over this lack of clarity. All things which would be kept private. No this is a great theory and empowerment policy but the devil is in the details and this has none of that.  Of course legal and HR had issues with it. They had to deal with any problems that occurred. The reason they went along is easy. The CEO is their boss and they complied. You ever work in a top 100 corporation? I have....

I agree to an extent. It will be messy, and they'll spend some cash on challenges from assholes of the sort who find loopholes, and sue over them. However I believe that treating your employees like adults, and not penalizing them for the policy abuses of a few, is ultimately a sound strategy. You're right though, in that right now it's just a theory since it has just recently been put into practice. 

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2 hours ago, PanthersBigD said:

I agree to an extent. It will be messy, and they'll spend some cash on challenges from assholes of the sort who find loopholes, and sue over them. However I believe that treating your employees like adults, and not penalizing them for the policy abuses of a few, is ultimately a sound strategy. You're right though, in that right now it's just a theory since it has just recently been put into practice. 

Trust me I practice positive psychology and believe in empowerment theory so again I embrace the concept. I just find that it is much more difficult to practice in the real world with so many lawyers and people looking for something to complain about or some way to collect money from others. Sad really.

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On 4/3/2018 at 12:02 PM, Cookie Lyon said:

I have a major issue with the parts in bold. I'm speechless.  When you think you've heard and read it all...there's more:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/02/sports/nfl-cheerleaders.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

All of these NFL teams should be a shame of themselves. Another scandal. Another day in the NFL.

Wow... how far the huddle has fallen, besides the cover up tattoos part sounds like a strip club to me.

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41 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

What the fug happened to the huddle, holy poo. I see even decent reputable people shitposting you. How far has this place fallen.

Because if this was an issue nobody would participate. It's basically a hobby and not a profession. Having a time for breaks is part of nearly every work environment on earth.  This was laughable. 

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36 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Because if this was an issue nobody would participate. It's basically a hobby and not a profession. Having a time for breaks is part of nearly every work environment on earth.  This was laughable. 

Trumpist alert! 

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My last last word on the topic is this. Are there perks, privileges, pay and policies that should be changed to reflect the value of cheerleaders to their team's fans and to football as a sport.  Given what the players make you would think the cheerleaders would be worth as least 1/20th of what a minimum salary would be for a guy who is usually inactive for the game.  But right now being  a top cat is a largely volunteer position which is competed for by women who love dancing and don't count on this as their primary profession. As such they are not going to be compensated as they should. That isn't fair..

But that is a long way from unethical or immoral. 

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