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Another scandal on Mint Street???


Cookie Lyon

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On 4/3/2018 at 12:07 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, the cheerleaders are treated like poo. I’m surprised this story hasn’t blown up sooner. But, if there’s any organization in the league with a stronger argument in terms of workplace opportunity for cheerleaders than the Panthers I’d like to hear their case. A former cheerleader is running the Panthers’ organization right now, at least on paper and in title.

It is nearly a volunteer group. It isn't the reason people come to the games and it isn't going to pay very well. 

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17 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Are you serious? Unfair and unethical? Hardly. When you are a public figure and represent an organization there are always conduct clauses and dress codes especially when the reason you have the position is your dancing ability and your appearance. This is showbiz and entertainment. What you do off the field is just as important as what you do on the field. Do reporters follow you around and observe what you do in your off hours. Are you recognizable by random people who would see you walking down the street? Again apples and oranges here and not unethical.  After the two topcat cheerleaders became the laughing stock of the league you can bet some conduct clauses were introduced.

They're cheerleaders. Cheer leading is not show business, and they're not making show business money. No one is following them around. I couldn't pick one of our current cheerleaders out of a line up, and I definitely wouldn't be able to pick one out of a crowd if they decided to go to the grocery store in sweat pants. 

The only conduct clause that needed to be introduced after that Buccaneers' game is 'don't get drunk in public and fug your coworker in a public toilet.' I don't see how most people would have problems following those guidelines. 

They make them abide by these silly/petty rules because they can. Instead of asking 'is it really that bad?' we should be asking ourselves, 'can it be better?'

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19 hours ago, PanthersBigD said:

Great article on this subject: https://work.qz.com/1242801/gms-dress-code-is-only-two-words/

Hire adults, treat them like adults, and they'll act like adults. 

Rules and regulations are made not for the 90% of people who act like adults but the 10% who don't. I agree with the author in concept but unfortunately have found many instances where in practice assuming people will act like adults ends up backfiring significantly.

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1 hour ago, panthers55 said:

Rules and regulations are made not for the 90% of people who act like adults but the 10% who don't. I agree with the author in concept but unfortunately have found many instances where in practice assuming people will act like adults ends up backfiring significantly.

I got a job at Lowes Home Improvement a couple years back to pay off some unexpected bills - one of the things the HR rep trained me on was proper attire while working in the store - she specifically brought up that I had to wear jeans or trousers that covered the crack of my ass.  I looked at her and started laughing.  She said " yeah - its pretty sad that you actually have to tell people that isn't it "

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16 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Rules and regulations are made not for the 90% of people who act like adults but the 10% who don't. I agree with the author in concept but unfortunately have found many instances where in practice assuming people will act like adults ends up backfiring significantly.

Exactly, but i would go farther to say that MOST adults can not represent themselves as adults a vast majority of the time. This thread has gone on for this many pages...and a lot of the posts that reflect support for these cheerleaders and their plight are from some of the same people that had multiple replies about how "hot" Kalils wife was...or would bang Brady's wife, or sharing pictures of x/y/x players wife or girlfriend in past threads, which if course was for the purpose of non-adult (read, immature) schoolboy banter.  You don't get to wear the cape of being an "adult" and caring about women when even just 5% of the time some of the same folks speak about women (not the cheerleaders in question) with such language.

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11 minutes ago, coralreefer_1 said:

Exactly, but i would go farther to say that MOST adults can not represent themselves as adults a vast majority of the time. This thread has gone on for this many pages...and a lot of the posts that reflect support for these cheerleaders and their plight are from some of the same people that had multiple replies about how "hot" Kalils wife was...or would bang Brady's wife, or sharing pictures of x/y/x players wife or girlfriend in past threads, which if course was for the purpose of non-adult (read, immature) schoolboy banter.  You don't get to wear the cape of being an "adult" and caring about women when even just 5% of the time some of the same folks speak about women (not the cheerleaders in question) with such language.

I think it would be healthier that individuals do these actions over the internet rather than in person. Don't "well if they do it here, then they do it in person" because that's an assumption we could only prove through actual interaction in person.

I am not sure why you get the power to determine who is an adult and who isn't? For all we know the people on here going through "school boy banter" are loving members of families who care and provide for their family.

I occasionally go out and have a drink, and talk negatively about my job, but doesn't mean I am a poor employee or feel that my company is poo. However, it is a good release.

You are making assumptions on individuals that could be fair if you say that's their ONLINE persona, but going after them for enjoying racy photos that these women take for big time publishers (like sports illustrated) seems a bit unfair, considering the purpose of these photos. 

If I think someone looks great in a photo, but then I hear that they were mistreated during the shoot, why do I not have the right to defend them? Why do I have to be excused from being an "adult?"

 

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1 hour ago, panthers55 said:

Rules and regulations are made not for the 90% of people who act like adults but the 10% who don't. I agree with the author in concept but unfortunately have found many instances where in practice assuming people will act like adults ends up backfiring significantly.

Then you warn, document and fire them. It's not that difficult. 

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38 minutes ago, coralreefer_1 said:

Exactly, but i would go farther to say that MOST adults can not represent themselves as adults a vast majority of the time. This thread has gone on for this many pages...and a lot of the posts that reflect support for these cheerleaders and their plight are from some of the same people that had multiple replies about how "hot" Kalils wife was...or would bang Brady's wife, or sharing pictures of x/y/x players wife or girlfriend in past threads, which if course was for the purpose of non-adult (read, immature) schoolboy banter.  You don't get to wear the cape of being an "adult" and caring about women when even just 5% of the time some of the same folks speak about women (not the cheerleaders in question) with such language.

Who would that be?

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