For the Monk Haters

[JakeDel5674]

2 minutes ago, bull123 said:

You are really reachable no with that one...I am telling you, this guy is not that good

Well, I'm telling you. I watched him all year. He is good. He has range, heart, and incredible vision. His game will translate to the NBA. 

[kmgreensman]

How in the world could anyone judge or blame Monk for his play this year? You don't play him and when you do, you play in at a position he is not comfortable. WOW that is not a high success rate but the perfect mix for killing a kids confidence! I remember the moment it started. They played the Bulls early season and Kris Dunn (one of the leagues best one on one defenders) picked his pocket a couple of times. They jerked him out of the game and shoved him on the bench and every night pushed him farther and farther down. 

I don't care how much swag or confidence you have in yourself or your game, a 19 year old isn't mature enough yet not to be effected by that. I saw a look on his face a few times at timeouts and him on the bench that I recognized. I had been there!

Now here is my disclaimer....I am, in NO way, trying to compare my personal basketball talents to Malik Monk, or any other NBA player.  I played Division 2 basketball back in the day.  (NAIA when I played) I had a dozen or so offers but choose this school because I was promised I would start all 4 years.( I still can't believe that I didn't pay a dime to get my college degree and all I had to do is do something I would have done for free.) 

I recognized that look on Malik's face because I had been there! I was a really good shooter. AND I knew it! Not cocky just very confident.  I shot a better percentage from three than from two. I was 45% to 46% from that distance throughout college but I played in the wrong era!

Today coaches would have encouraged me, but when I played, Three pointers were new to the game and coaches really didn't know what to think of them yet. Mine, oh he didn't like the new rule at all! . We didn't even have threes till my sophomore year. So the year before, and in high school, my shots from out there were good shots, but when that line was painted, all of a sudden, they weren't anymore. And I am not talking about bad shots.I'm not talking one pass and shoot with a defender in my face.  laughing saying this I did not DARE ever come down on a break and stop at three point range and shoot. I am talking moving the ball around to where I have a WIDE A$$ open shot! I averaged more assists than our point so it wasn't like I wasn't passing the ball. SMH! 

So starting my sophomore year when I pulled up for my first shot of the game (form three range, all my shots were basically from there), I KNEW I was coming out of the game if I missed it!  At first you don't think about as much, but after a while its like having the yips in putting....its like that little man inside yells, "HEY WAIT!!!!! You know if you miss it???"    

BUT anyway back to Malik...Lack of confidence causes you to try to "question yourself" while you're playing and there isn't enough time to play AND question yourself. You have to be able to react. You play timid and this causes awkward moments. I could see some of those with him where he would have normally just reacted and shot it or drove to the basket and now he is hesitating and then trying to make a pass. 

No one is happier than me to see him playing like he is now because he is WAY to talented to be on the end of the bench. His development should have been more of a priority than winning games in my opinion.  Playing MCW in front of Monk was crazy! Monk has the chance to be a very special player in this league! When you jump 43 inches being 6'3 vs being 6'5 isnt that big of a deal to me.  

 I loved seeing him get his old self back and his play is proving it.  Just the fact of him being interviewed before the game last night That tells me a lot about where he is now. Compare that to how he spoke during that span when he had a reserved seat down there next to Marcus Paige! Different man now!

Sorry for the long post, but I just saw a very, very talented kid starting to question his own talent level and it made me sick inside when I would see those moments when I knew he was just trying not to mess up. This kid is going to be special if they keep developing him and please don't EVER or make him watch MCW play in front of him. 

Another disclaimer....This is only my opinion from my own personal experience.  I was no where NEAR  the talent of Malik Monk!  His vertical is 43 inches, mine wasn't 43 sheets of notebook paper!! 

 I really am pulling for him.  Now if MJ will just let Mitch Cup-Check do his job we may just start seeing other talented players getting drafted!  

Just want to see my Hornets play good basketball.  You can tell by my status I don't post much. The way they handled Monk this year is just a touchy one for me and just wanted to share my thoughts. 

 

Thanks, 

 

 

 

[OldNorthPowell]

7 minutes ago, bull123 said:

Nowhere near as good as Curry

I am not saying he is as good as him yet. Just that he reminds me of him. 

[JakeDel5674]

19 minutes ago, bull123 said:

I thought Young was not that good a shooter and was a ball hog trying to pad his stats

You clearly didn't watch any of the games. When his teammates were hitting the open shots he created for them, the team was winning. When they started missing shots in the second half of the season, he started chucking. It was that simple. It was like Steph Curry his last Season at Davidson. 

[JakeDel5674]

24 minutes ago, bull123 said:

He’s about the same as DJ Augustin

Terrible comparison. DJ Augstin had talent around him at Texas with Aldridge. While Trae Young had a bunch of G-Leaguers, if that. 

[yasuhara2241]

Another great game from Monk! Looks really in control and is making the right decision on pick and rolls. I also didn't notice too many defensive breakdowns today. Usually about once a game I see him not hustling back on defense but I didn't notice that today. 

Even though he had 5 assists there were about 5 other assists where the guys just missed open shots that he created. 

I liked the fact that even though he wasn't that efficient from 3, he found other ways to score! I feel like the season just started for him, which is sad because it is now over. 

 

[MillionDollarCam]

 

Monk once again showing that improved iso game.

During the month of April Monk is averaging: 21 points (52% FG, 52% 3P, 100% FT), 4.3 assists, 1.7 rebounds, 1.3 blocks, and 0.7 steals. The only area that Monk is still struggling in is assist to turnover ratio as it currently sits at a 4.3/3.3.

Keep in mind, these numbers are in an average of 25 minutes per game. If he received the 35 minutes that Kemba received in a game there is no telling what his numbers could be.

[Eazy-E]

I see sports writers and stuff now saying things like he wasn't ready, he needed to learn and be taught, if he got minutes earlier in the season we wouldn't be looking at the same player... While some of that may be true, I think everyone's gripe is that valuable minutes he could have had (10 to 15 mpg) were going to MCW. MCW was statistically the worst player in the NBA this season. That kind of asinine decision making falls on the coach and should cost Clifford his job. 

His shooting form hasn't changed and he didn't all of a sudden gain a 43 inch vertical. What the fug did he need to be taught? We all know he would struggle on defense but his ability to score the ball should far outweigh the fact he is as defensive liability. He single-handedly won us the game against the Bucks early in the season where we all got a glimpse of the player he can be. He easily could have helped us win quite a few games this season. Instead we got to watch MCW brick layups and go 0-11 from the field while the losses piled up and our hopes for the playoffs disappeared. 

With his hard on for defense, Imagine Clifford coaching James Harden.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

Yeah I believe Cliff hindered his development by burying him on the bench.

[JakeDel5674]

4 hours ago, Eazy-E said:

I see sports writers and stuff now saying things like he wasn't ready, he needed to learn and be taught, if he got minutes earlier in the season we wouldn't be looking at the same player... While some of that may be true, I think everyone's gripe is that valuable minutes he could have had (10 to 15 mpg) were going to MCW. MCW was statistically the worst player in the NBA this season. That kind of asinine decision making falls on the coach and should cost Clifford his job. 

His shooting form hasn't changed and he didn't all of a sudden gain a 43 inch vertical. What the fug did he need to be taught? We all know he would struggle on defense but his ability to score the ball should far outweigh the fact he is as defensive liability. He single-handedly won us the game against the Bucks early in the season where we all got a glimpse of the player he can be. He easily could have helped us win quite a few games this season. Instead we got to watch MCW brick layups and go 0-11 from the field while the losses piled up and our hopes for the playoffs disappeared. 

With his hard on for defense, Imagine Clifford coaching James Harden.

I read that article by Rick Bonnell too. It's horse poo and we all know it. 

I think once Monk gets in his position at the Point consistently, he'll be fine. Defensive wise that is.

And you talking about Clifford coaching Harden. What about LeBron this year? That man is ranked around 350th in Defensive Efficiency this year.  

[yasuhara2241]

2 hours ago, JakeDel5674 said:

I read that article by Rick Bonnell too. It's horse poo and we all know it. 

I think once Monk gets in his position at the Point consistently, he'll be fine. Defensive wise that is.

And you talking about Clifford coaching Harden. What about LeBron this year? That man is ranked around 350th in Defensive Efficiency this year.  

Not to mention that Cliff played Frank a ton as a rookie and he still has issues with defense. Also pick and roll defense when Dwight is involved has been terrible but the only thing we hear is that Dwight is a defensive anchor. Now don't get me wrong I think Dwight has been very good, but I do think that we need to learn how to defend the pick and roll better and that is on Coach Cliff.