Are QB mechanics really that important? A lesson from Packers QB coach Steve Mariucci that still applies now.

[KillerKat]

3 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

Next up.....Why Low Completion Percentages are Good on the next episode of Saca Takes it Hotter 

You should look up Coryell offense on google.

[KillerKat]

Cam's been playing hurt the past couple seasons with no vertical help, which btw you need in a Coryell offense, and Shula. But no lets use completion percentage as a way to bash Cam for being way more inaccurate than over half the league even though that makes no sense at all because you don't understand what an Air Coryell offense is.

[Moo Daeng]

47 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

You should look up Coryell offense on google.

Twitter is the source of all knowledge 

[CarolinaSamurai]

Cams a great QB. Period. If he was on any other competitive team and given actual WRs in his career he would have a SB right now maybe more than one. Pundits would be praising him if he was on the Steeler, Giants, Patriots, Eagles, Packers, 49ers, Seahawks even bad teams like the Dolphins, Browns. He could turn those teams around and I'd bet all the QB hungry teams would fight to have a chance to have him on thier roster. 

He was just unfortunately drafted by us and we get no respect. Until we win a SB or have back to back winning seasons that will always be the narrative. I'm use to it why aren't the rest of you.

[brandon_87]

12 hours ago, Saca312 said:

Watch a few games from Alex Smith. Watch Tom Brady against the Texans and us. Heck, watch a few games from Aaron Rodgers.

Guarantee you there will be a few overthrows here and there. Cam Newton’s is awfully exaggerated because his arm’s a literal cannon, but the reality is he has his share’s of overthrows like most other QBs.

It’s an old narrative that’s about as bad as “Cam isn’t a pocket passer.” 

Bro .. you're pointing out a few throws from their while season... Can sails a few balls every game... There is absolutely no comparison

[Moo Daeng]

9 minutes ago, brandon_87 said:

Bro .. you're pointing out a few throws from their while season... Can sails a few balls every game... There is absolutely no comparison

Exactly. Hopefully a new coordinator and qb coach get this back on track.

[Khyber53]

When evaluating Cam, you have to look at the entire picture. His physical attributes are incredible, his ability to run the ball is probably the best of any QB in history and his arm strength is legendary. Add to that his continuing growth in the ability to read the field and any complaint about mechanics really begins to sound like complaining that the Mona Lisa has no eyebrows.

Yes, he does overthrow receivers. His arm strength and flat trajectory laser cannon style of throwing make those misses look big, but in the end, they are just misses. And every QB has them of one stripe or another. You just have to take those in stride as part of the cost of everything else he brings to the table.

In the end, all pro QBs (except Archie Manning) lived or died by the mantra "Do you win games?" Cam does. Mechanics be danged, they aren't the determiner of winning QBs. Matt Moore and Jimmy Clausen had good to excellent mechanics, but just weren't winners. Jake Delhomme had lousy mechanics but he had that "It" factor that allowed him to win games he had no business being in. 

I don't believe anyone would be stupid enough to trade Cam for any other QB in the league right now.

[X-Clown]

49 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Exactly. Hopefully a new coordinator and qb coach get this back on track.

What exactly is this list of completion percentage supposed to prove?

[TheRed]

It's bewildering to watch two faced Panthers fans who supposedly watched the same games I did last year chime in with hot takes about Cam's bad completion percentage as if that's the end all be all. Nevermind the fact that they had no issue at all watching him risk his health carrying our run game all year, this after drafting a running back eighth overall. Nevermind the fact that he nearly led us to victory in New Orleans in the playoffs despite our practice squad wide receivers dropping touchdown passes while Ted Ginn burned our defense all year.

[JARROD]

14 hours ago, heel31ok said:

As good as Cam is he isn't Rodgers...

And Aaron Rodgers isn’t Cam Newton

[Smithers]

So Saca starts a threat saying that Lamar Jackson is a top 3 QB in the draft because he has all the tools and good mechanics (Except one, footwork, which he said can be corrected with coaching)...then makes a thread about how mechanics aren't important.  

BTW...mechanics are not only important, they are critical.  Are there good QB's that have bad mechanics?  Sure.  But are those QB's consistently good? Nope.  Pure athletic ability can allow players to look good and make those wow plays.  But add in good mechanics, and now you have someone who can do those things on a consistent basis.  

Cam has had games where he looks like Tom Brady.  The Problem is, he has also had games where he looks like Jamarcus Russell.  Brady never has those dramatic highs and lows.  Because he has great mechanics.  

[Mr. Scot]

13 hours ago, Cracka McNasty said:

Three QB's with damn near flawless mechanics that come to mind:

Brees, Brady, and Manning. All time greats. 

Mechanics are important for when you get older and your body starts breaking down. Everyone talks about the wall that Brees/Brady are going to hit but it still isn't happening. Sure they don't have the same zip that they used to, but they are smart and they have great mechanics. 

I'm honestly terrified for when Cam's athleticism starts to fade. Father time will hit him hard because he doesn't have good mechanics to fall back on. All the ridiculous throws that he was once able to hit on the run won't be there anymore. And with all the hits he takes, I'm afraid that time is coming sooner rather than later. 

Valid.

As to Newton, yes mechanics matter. If they didn't, Tim Te-bow might still be in  the NFL.

Bad mechanics can certainly be overcome but it makes the job tougher. It's kind of like being a color blind artist. Sure, you can still be great but it's not going to be as easy as it might be for someone else.

 

[Mr. Scot]

18 minutes ago, Smithers said:

Pure athletic ability can allow players to look good and make those wow plays.  But add in good mechanics, and now you have someone who can do those things on a consistent basis.  

Steve Young.

[AviationMX]

Fundamentals do matter but it may be more of a timing issue with Newton. Having a consistent drop back allows receivers to run routs and be open at a certain time. Montana was always criticized by Walsh for not having the exact amount of steps or hitches as he dropped back...too many or too few threw off the play. I'm not saying that we're a West Coast Offense but I think if Newton had better timing ( or time to throw) he would have better windows to hit or could read the defense quicker. The less any QB has to read the play or  having to rip the ball into tight windows-  the better...It looks to me that Newton has a hard time getting the ball to primary receiver for whatever reason (timing errors on both) and either whips the ball to someone or runs. And lastly and I didn't look this up, how many back shoulder passes does Newton have? not many, but I think Air Norv will fix a bunch of these issues and this season we will be able to come back in any game...