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[Woodie]

3 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

A new owner or any owner better not ever be making any decisions that shift draft strategies and directions.

 

I agree, but we don't know how hands on any of these prospective owners will be.  And people looking to keep their jobs are likely to do what the new owner wants, even if he can't officially tell them to.  

Also, he may have a very detailed idea about the direction they want to take this team,  So, he could "suggest" that starts with the draft.  For example, the new owner may want the team to be defensive focused team and wants us to put resources into that area right away.  That could cause a shift in our plan.  Lets say we are looking at a WR like D.J. Moore at #24, or even an OG/C like Daniels, this may cause us to change our plans.  We could combine that #24 pick pick with one of our thirds to move up for a defender like Davenport if he drops a little, or maybe even just take that Safety everyone wants (which is a legit possibility regardless, but without knowing our plans, it could increase that likelihood) at 24.

While I don't want a prospective owner dictating our draft plans, it's only reasonable that he would have opinions, and there are probably some people that would want to curry his favor by shifting things to do what he prefers.

[Woodie]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Makes sense.

Mind you, if the NFL is becoming more actively involved, can't help wondering if they might not "gently nudge" Jerry Richardson to make "the right decision".

I definitely think there are some back door discussions going on.  It's why Navarro's biggest challenge might not be getting the funds and winning the bid, but selling himself as the best option to the other NFL owners.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Woodie said:

I agree, but we don't know how hands on any of these prospective owners will be.  And people looking to keep their jobs are likely to do what the new owner wants, even if he can't officially tell them to.  

Also, he may have a very detailed idea about the direction they want to take this team,  So, he could "suggest" that starts with the draft.  For example, the new owner may want the team to be defensive focused team and wants us to put resources into that area right away.  That could cause a shift in our plan.  Lets say we are looking at a WR like D.J. Moore at #24, or even an OG/C like Daniels, this may cause us to change our plans.  We could combine that #24 pick pick with one of our thirds to move up for a defender like Davenport if he drops a little, or maybe even just take that Safety everyone wants (which is a legit possibility regardless, but without knowing our plans, it could increase that likelihood) at 24.

While I don't want a prospective owner dictating our draft plans, it's only reasonable that he would have opinions, and there are probably some people that would want to curry his favor by shifting things to do what he prefers.

I too prefer "hands off" when it comes to the daily operations but every owner puts their stamp on how their team is run.  Our prior owner, for example, always insisted on a defensively focused team.

If it's Tepper, I don't imagine that changes.  Navarro or Kestenbaum?  Unknown.

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Woodie said:

I definitely think there are some back door discussions going on.  It's why Navarro's biggest challenge might not be getting the funds and winning the bid, but selling himself as the best option to the other NFL owners.

One owner (McNair) has publicly stated his business background is not a problem. Three others have privately stated that it is.

All it would take is for six other guys to agree with those first three and Navarro would be looking at an uphill battle (assuming he isn't already).

[Woodie]

23 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

One owner (McNair) has publicly stated his business background is not a problem. Three others have privately stated that it is.

All it would take is for six other guys to agree with those first three and Navarro would be looking at an uphill battle (assuming he isn't already).

Yeah, I really think Navarro is going to have a much more difficult time getting the team than Tepper.  Kestenbaum is more of an unknown to me, but the fact that Tepper is already established in the NFL and has relationships with some of the owners will make it tough for anyone to beat him out.  

But to be honest, I don't think either Kestenbaum or Navarro (or their backers) have the funds to take this out of Tepper's range if he really wants it.  Their only hope financially is if he has a firm max amount he's willing to pay and decides it's not worth it if it crosses that amount.  Even with backers, both are probably close to their max bid amount.  Which, to me, means that it's going to come down to the details, and Tepper's association with the Steelers probably give him an advantage with some of the details of running a team as well as being ready to hit the ground running.

 

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, Woodie said:

Yeah, I really think Navarro is going to have a much more difficult time getting the team than Tepper.  Kestenbaum is more of an unknown to me, but the fact that Tepper is already established in the NFL and has relationships with some of the owners will make it tough for anyone to beat him out.  

But to be honest, I don't think either Kestenbaum or Navarro (or their backers) have the funds to take this out of Tepper's range if he really wants it.  Their only hope financially is if he has a firm max amount he's willing to pay and decides it's not worth it if it crosses that amount.  Even with backers, both are probably close to their max bid amount.  Which, to me, means that it's going to come down to the details, and Tepper's association with the Steelers probably give him an advantage with some of the details of running a team as well as being ready to hit the ground running.

 

How much he wants it does seem to be the operative question right now.

[Mr. Scot]

Again, make of it what you will, but Navarro's visit netted a mention on NFL.com.  They didn't talk about Kestenbaum that I saw.

The one thing about this that makes me think it could matter a little is that we know the NFL has already started vetting Navarro.  No mention of such with Kestenbaum and of course, not necessary with Tepper. 

[trueblade]

2 hours ago, CardiacCat said:

I will repost my "thoughts" about options for the new Carolina Panthers stadium here in Charleston....  (conveniently located between my house and place of work)

I would love this so much. We're such a college football town, I'm not sure it'd work. It would take Boeing getting involved and I don't even want to think about the parking lot 26 would be on game day, but I'd buy season tickets the day it was announced.

#charlestonStrong

[Woodie]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

How much he wants it does seem to be the operative question right now.

One thing that leads me to think he's in it for the long haul is that this is probably going to be his best shot at being majority owner.  Sure, other teams will come up for sale, but this sale will set the bar.  And just like anything, whenever the next team is put up for sale, the current owners are probably going to be looking at this sales price as their floor.  Even if you take out the cost of the stadium, it's still going to be a couple of Billion.

So, if he has a max amount he's willing to spend, any purchase of a team (whether its the Panthers or another team in a couple of years) will likely surpass that amount.  Not to mention the fact that there is no guarantee that any team that goes up for sale within the next few years will even be an East coast team...which I assume is a positive for him.  So, with all that, I really think Tepper will go all in on the Panthers.  

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Woodie said:

One thing that leads me to think he's in it for the long haul is that this is probably going to be his best shot at being majority owner.  Sure, other teams will come up for sale, but this sale will set the bar.  And just like anything, whenever the next team is put up for sale, the current owners are probably going to be looking at this sales price as their floor.  Even if you take out the cost of the stadium, it's still going to be a couple of Billion.

So, if he has a max amount he's willing to spend, any purchase of a team (whether its the Panthers or another team in a couple of years) will likely surpass that amount.  Not to mention the fact that there is no guarantee that any team that goes up for sale within the next few years will even be an East coast team...which I assume is a positive for him.  So, with all that, I really think Tepper will go all in on the Panthers.  

Valid.  Someone else mentioned that too.

It's not like the next team for sale is gonna be cheaper.  If he's not willing to pay this much, odds could be slim of him getting one at all.

[Woodie]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Again, make of it what you will, but Navarro's visit netted a mention on NFL.com.  They didn't talk about Kestenbaum that I saw.

The one thing about this that makes me think it could matter a little is that we know the NFL has already started vetting Navarro.  No mention of such with Kestenbaum and of course, not necessary with Tepper. 

I think I read somewhere that they started vetting all of the final candidates (minus Tepper, of course), but don't recall exactly where.  I've read so much from different sources it's hard to remember specific places where I got information.  So, I can't verify this, but I do think all of them are being vetted.

[Woodie]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Valid.  Someone else mentioned that too.

It's not like the next team for sale is gonna be cheaper.  If he's not willing to pay this much, odds could be slim of him getting one at all.

Not to mention that I get the sense several owners are pushing for him, and if he passes on it at this point, they might not be willing to go out on a limb for him again.

[Mr. Scot]

18 minutes ago, Woodie said:

Not to mention that I get the sense several owners are pushing for him, and if he passes on it at this point, they might not be willing to go out on a limb for him again.

All valid.

He's still my predicted winner at this point, but I'm not counting Navarro out yet.

[Mr. Scot]

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