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Is our secondary actually any worse?


Eazy-E

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22 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

Ptsd about what? I’m sorry you aren’t able to share opinions in a reasonable manner.

I'm not the one making statements like I know what I'm talking about.  You seem to want validation so I'm sorry you can't handle differing opinions.   

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30 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

The ol’ eye tests tells me Seymour can’t defend against a lumbering log.

I don’t think he is saying he can. Just that Worley couldn’t cover either. Both Worley and Seymour are bad at coverage so we aren’t any WORSE with Seymour there isn’t of Worley. The good news is we have Elder healthy and obviously are looking at better options... 

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21 minutes ago, NJPanthers12 said:

Good to see your character assessments are the same as your GM assessments. Garbage 

Been right way more than you and never acted like I had "sources"..

Remember that ??? When you had sources but everybody found out you're just a lying bitch craving for attention on a football forum...

I know how pathetic were you??? Lol.. Now you're trying this condescending prick thing... Good for you sweet heart..

Hahaha

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7 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Been right way more than you and never acted like I had "sources"..

Remember that ??? When you had sources but everybody found out you're just a lying bitch craving for attention on a football forum...

I know how pathetic were you??? Lol.. Now you're trying this condescending prick thing... Good for you sweet heart..

Hahaha

Once again talking about something you have no idea about. Only condescending to those who clearly have no clue what they are talking about. You just happen to be one of the few on that list. You're really crushing it on the internet tough guy act. Good for you sweet heart.

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27 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I'm not the one making statements like I know what I'm talking about.  You seem to want validation so I'm sorry you can't handle differing opinions.   

Once again making assumptions instead of just answering the question. Why not just reply with the how and why the secondary is so much worse? We’re on a football message board. No one here is a professional. You also never explained the ptsd comment.

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It's indisputably worse right now. 

This is exactly why I wasn't a fan of getting rid of a young CB for a guy who was on the verge of getting cut. 

offseason is far from over, but losing Breeland really, really hurt. 

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12 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

I don’t think he is saying he can. Just that Worley couldn’t cover either. Both Worley and Seymour are bad at coverage so we aren’t any WORSE with Seymour there isn’t of Worley. The good news is we have Elder healthy and obviously are looking at better options... 

Nice to see someone with reading comprehension skills.

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1 hour ago, Eazy-E said:

Kurt Coleman and Daryl Worley were fuging awful last season. You guys may disagree with me but I can just go by the eye test and what I saw play out on the field. 

  I agree that Coleman was terrible. Smart move by him to go to the only team where he will never have to tackle Kamara. Worley frequently looked outmatched in coverage but I thought he was a superior tackler to Bradberry who seems to get a free pass around here because of his rookie season.

The safety market for free agency is moving slow and there are still 3 or 4 guys out there who would be upgrades to Coleman. I don’t even think Colin Jones would have been any better or worse, that’s how bad Coleman was.

  Its not too late but even if the holes are plugged it doesn't speak very well of advance planning. Creating holes is sort of the opposite of what I had hoped for. Worley was also a cheap starter. Its an inditement that after 2 rookie years his worth as an asset is deemed equal to Smith. I will feel happier if Gunter returns.

So yeah overall i look at it as we lost 2 first team starters and as of now we don't have their replacements. As much as they were frequent liabilities, right now we are worse in my book.

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