Would you guys take Trae Young if he is there at our pick?

[Proudiddy]

23 minutes ago, JakeDel5674 said:

Pretty sure they said the same thing about Steph Curry. Crazy enough, Trae has the same shot selection as Steph did when he was in his Junior year at Davidson. But, no one brings this up. 

Steph had a slight frame, it's working for him fine. He won't get bullied because this NBA in THIS day and age is soft as a baby's ass. Kemba doesn't get bullied and he's like 170 pounds soaking wet. So, I damn sure don't want to hear bull poo about "being bullied." 

His shot selection is because his team has zero talent around him. The "other players" for OU that are suppose to be good (Manek, McGusty, and James) shot an astounding 1-10 from the 3 point line. His shot selection is what it is because his teammates do not complete his assists, nor do they do shoot well. As you can tell from the stat about. I got news for ya, if he's there at 11 or 12 (or where ever we pick this year) we need to take him. Even if there's a slim ass margin, he could turn into Steph Curry. WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT CHANCE. YOUR mentality, is mostly the reason we're in this bull poo in the first place. Not taking chances on players that could become studs (Beal, DeAndre Jordan, Booker, etc.) or not playing those players.

LOL, no, my mentality is not why we're in this position.  

I'm not some psychic basketball guru, but I pride myself on my ability to see translatable talent from college to pros, and I knew Kemba was going to be star.  I knew Steph was going to be something like the league had never seen before...  I can probably dig up my posts on that draft, and I implored our FO to trade whatever it took to move up and take Steph.

I watched all three of these guys in college and Trae is not Kemba.  Trae is not Steph.  He is a GREAT college player, but that will NOT translate to the pros.  It's not just about his frame...  What I left out of my original post because I felt it was understood, was that despite Kemba's frame, what made his skills translatable to the pros was his otherworldly explosiveness and ball handling.  Trae is a really good ball handler, but not on the level of Kemba or Steph, and he damn sure is not as explosive as Kemba, who he is built more like frame-wise.  Steph was skinny, but he is also a legit 6'3."  I have a feeling Trae is going to come out at right at 6 feet even, and he's probably about 160 lbs soaking wet.  If you're that small, you have to be explosive to create your own shot in the pros...  and he doesn't have that.  Little guy with no athletic trait that stands head and shoulders against his peers?  That's why I said he would get bullied...  and he will.

But, this is all a moot point to argue over, because now that we have played ourselves into a horrible pick while missing the playoffs again, there is no doubt if a big name like Trae drops to us, we will be forced to take him, whether we should or not.  And ultimately it doesn't matter what we do unless we find a way to revamp our 2-4 spots.

So, idk where all this anger is coming from towards me, lol...  I can go down the list of our draft picks that I did and did NOT want, and I was right about all of them that I can recall except for PJ Hairston, which was ultimately inconsequential at where he was taken.

[Shocker]

Cliff would never play him. 

[JakeDel5674]

39 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

LOL, no, my mentality is not why we're in this position.  

I'm not some psychic basketball guru, but I pride myself on my ability to see translatable talent from college to pros, and I knew Kemba was going to be star.  I knew Steph was going to be something like the league had never seen before...  I can probably dig up my posts on that draft, and I implored our FO to trade whatever it took to move up and take Steph.

I watched all three of these guys in college and Trae is not Kemba.  Trae is not Steph.  He is a GREAT college player, but that will NOT translate to the pros.  It's not just about his frame...  What I left out of my original post because I felt it was understood, was that despite Kemba's frame, what made his skills translatable to the pros was his otherworldly explosiveness and ball handling.  Trae is a really good ball handler, but not on the level of Kemba or Trae, and he damn sure is not as explosive as Kemba, who he is built more like frame-wise.  Steph was skinny, but he is also a legit 6'3."  I have a feeling Trae is going to come out at right at 6 feet even, and he's probably about 160 lbs soaking wet.  If you're that small, you have to be explosive to create your own shot in the pros...  and he doesn't have that.  Little guy with no athletic trait that stands head and shoulders against his peers?  That's why I said he would get bullied...  and he will.

But, this is all a moot point to argue over, because now that we have played ourselves into a horrible pick while missing the playoffs again, there is no doubt if a big name like Trae drops to us, we will be forced to take him, whether we should or not.  And ultimately it doesn't matter what we do unless we find a way to revamp our 2-4 spots.

So, idk where all this anger is coming from towards me, lol...  I can go down the list of our draft picks that I did and did NOT want, and I was right about all of them that I can recall except for PJ Hairston, which was ultimately inconsequential at where he was taken.

I didn't think Kemba would be this good. I thought he would be solid, but not an All-Star.

And Curry's handles weren't that good either. And crazy enough, he still makes a ton of mistakes, and turns the ball over a lot. 

I think Trae can work on his handles like Steph, and I don't think Steph was that athletic either. Trae is a legit 6'2 180 pounds. I think he'll be fine as long as his work ethic continues to be amazing, which it will. And that's also what Steph had going in

LITERALLY every place I've looked said he's 6'2. NOT ONE has said he was 6'0. So, I don't know where you get that poo from. 

Again, the NBA is fuging soft, I don't think he would get "bullied" by anyone. 

I can say I didn't like the majority of our picks too, because Hell, I didn't. I wanted Beal over MKG, I wanted DeAndre Jordan over Ajinca, and I actually wanted Brook Lopez over Kemba (this actually turns out to be a wash). 

The major problem with your Draft pick analysis is that it's quite easy to pick against the players we Drafted. I did want Monk this past Draft. So, that's on the Coaching staff in my opinion not playing him.

I wanted Winslow over Frank too, but both have been very average, so that's a wash as well. 

Regardless, if Trae is there, you have to take him. We would have nothing to lose at that point, because every prospect has question marks. And even if Trae becomes something between DJ Augstin & Steph, that is still a damn good get in the Lottery. 

[JakeDel5674]

17 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Cliff would never play him. 

I don't think he'll be here next year, he hasn't made this roster work. So.........

[peteywheatstraw]

2 hours ago, Shocker said:

Cliff would never play him. 

Hoping like hell Cliff isn't here next year because that means another 9 or 10 seed.  Lol. I like Cliff as a person, but his time here should be done.

[peteywheatstraw]

1 hour ago, JakeDel5674 said:

I didn't think Kemba would be this good. I thought he would be solid, but not an All-Star.

And Curry's handles weren't that good either. And crazy enough, he still makes a ton of mistakes, and turns the ball over a lot. 

I think Trae can work on his handles like Steph, and I don't think Steph was that athletic either. Trae is a legit 6'2 180 pounds. I think he'll be fine as long as his work ethic continues to be amazing, which it will. And that's also what Steph had going in

LITERALLY every place I've looked said he's 6'2. NOT ONE has said he was 6'0. So, I don't know where you get that poo from. 

Again, the NBA is fuging soft, I don't think he would get "bullied" by anyone. 

I can say I didn't like the majority of our picks too, because Hell, I didn't. I wanted Beal over MKG, I wanted DeAndre Jordan over Ajinca, and I actually wanted Brook Lopez over Kemba (this actually turns out to be a wash). 

The major problem with your Draft pick analysis is that it's quite easy to pick against the players we Drafted. I did want Monk this past Draft. So, that's on the Coaching staff in my opinion not playing him.

I wanted Winslow over Frank too, but both have been very average, so that's a wash as well. 

Regardless, if Trae is there, you have to take him. We would have nothing to lose at that point, because every prospect has question marks. And even if Trae becomes something between DJ Augstin & Steph, that is still a damn good get in the Lottery. 

To piggyback off that, Steph could always shoot, but he did transform his body from his earlier days to not get pushed around any longer.  If Young does something similar I think he will be fine, and his assist numbers are already pretty nice as is.  When he gets to the league he'll have more talent to distribute the ball to.  You might be talking me into this if he's available.   Lol

[JakeDel5674]

12 minutes ago, peteywheatstraw said:

To piggyback off that, Steph could always shoot, but he did transform his body from his earlier days to not get pushed around any longer.  If Young does something similar I think he will be fine, and his assist numbers are already pretty nice as is.  When he gets to the league he'll have more talent to distribute the ball to.  You might be talking me into this if he's available.   Lol

See the "bullied" in the NBA argument just loses me in 2018. LeBron would have numerous injuries if this League wasn't so damn soft. No one is getting "bullied" in this NBA anymore. 

[peteywheatstraw]

28 minutes ago, JakeDel5674 said:

See the "bullied" in the NBA argument just loses me in 2018. LeBron would have numerous injuries if this League wasn't so damn soft. No one is getting "bullied" in this NBA anymore. 

True, it's nothing like it was years ago. To me that alone makes it no debate as to MJ being better than LBJ.  It's more of an athleticism, speed/ explosiveness , and damn near all 5 guys on the court need to be able to shoot the 3 ball in today's game.

[JakeDel5674]

1 hour ago, peteywheatstraw said:

True, it's nothing like it was years ago. To me that alone makes it no debate as to MJ being better than LBJ.  It's more of an athleticism, speed/ explosiveness , and damn near all 5 guys on the court need to be able to shoot the 3 ball in today's game.

EXACTLY. And Trae can do that. 

[bLACKpANTHER]

11 hours ago, JakeDel5674 said:

We gotta start trading liabilities man. I don't want to see half of these players on the roster next year. 

fixed.. lol.. i feel u

[JakeDel5674]

1 hour ago, bLACKpANTHER said:

fixed.. lol.. i feel u

Well played, sir. Well played. 

[SOJA]

No, I think Monk is a better prospect and they are very similar type players. 

Collin Sexton is a better NBA prospect and a better fit. 

[JakeDel5674]

5 hours ago, SOJA said:

No, I think Monk is a better prospect and they are very similar type players. 

Collin Sexton is a better NBA prospect and a better fit. 

Eh, Monk is very similar at all. Trae dishes the ball quite well, while Monk can't even run the point guard position well right now. Actually, Trae would help Monk immensely, while I'm not sure Sexton would. 

[SOJA]

56 minutes ago, JakeDel5674 said:

Eh, Monk is very similar at all. Trae dishes the ball quite well, while Monk can't even run the point guard position well right now. Actually, Trae would help Monk immensely, while I'm not sure Sexton would. 

Guess we will just have to disagree, I don't think Young is a good fit at all with Monk