Fuel for the "Crabtree trade" fire

[Mage]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think Short is one of those guys who you don't touch if only due to age. He'll turn 30 this season. And we'd be pushing guaranteed money down the road until he was 33 years old. That feels dangerous to me.

I agree.  I would only do it for guys who you are confident will still be effective years down the line, assuming it's a long-term contract.

Other than Cam and Kuechly, the only other guy on the team I'd probably want to restructure (if we had to) is Trai Turner.  2017 was a down year for him, but we know what he is capable of and he's only 24 years old.  Plus he's a guard, they are good for a long time.

[YoungPanthers89]

8 minutes ago, Captain Obvious said:

Is he worth pursuing too? If Kalil is cut.

He's gonna get PAID

[OnlyPantherFaninMaine]

1 minute ago, YoungPanthers89 said:

He's gonna get PAID

Nah, chronic hip issues. I believe his career from here on out is on borrowed time. Dolphins were worried his career was over prior to last season. 

[Adb6368]

41 minutes ago, RumHam said:

Like where? Because it's sitting there now and nothing has been done so explain to me?

Crabtree for almost $8M or Mathieu for $10M? I'd take mathieu in a heartbeat.

[XOBlackxJokerOX]

26 minutes ago, joeyxfresco said:

Kalil is done after this year so it wouldn’t make any sense. We would just be adding dead money to the cap next year 

Hmmm, good to know. Thanks.

[Riv]

1 minute ago, Adb6368 said:

Crabtree for almost $8M or Mathieu for $10M? I'd take mathieu in a heartbeat.

How about we cut Smith and Shep, then Crabtree is cost neutral.

[TheCasillas]

8 minutes ago, Riv said:

How about we cut Smith and Shep, then Crabtree is cost neutral.

I feel like if we trade Munnerlyn (may prove to be difficult) and cut Shep we would be good here...

 

I wouldn't cut Smith its obvious he is here to be a deep threat and mentor Samuel.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, TheCasillas said:

I feel like if we trade Munnerlyn (may prove to be difficult) and cut Shep we would be good here...

It would cost us an additional $2.5M this season to part ways with Captain.

[joeyxfresco]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It would cost us an additional $2.5M this season to part ways with Captain.

We also don’t know how Corn will pan out 

[TheCasillas]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It would cost us an additional $2.5M this season to part ways with Captain.

We'd only have to pay his signing bonus that got extended over his first two years, I thought. That would save us 2.5m, but I'll be honest I could be reading overthecap incorrectly.

 

POST-6/1 TRADE 2018
Dead Cap: $1,500,0002019
Dead Cap: $3,000,0002018
Cap Savings: $2,437,500

[Riv]

2 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

I feel like if we trade Munnerlyn (may prove to be difficult) and cut Shep we would be good here...

 

I wouldn't cut Smith its obvious he is here to be a deep threat and mentor Samuel.

Why are we paying Smith to mentor Samuel when we have Cotchery on the staff?  Crabtree is what we need, not Smith.

[TheCasillas]

6 minutes ago, Riv said:

Why are we paying Smith to mentor Samuel when we have Cotchery on the staff?  Crabtree is what we need, not Smith.

Smith doesn't stop Crabtree from happening...... I am referring to acquiring both Honey Badger and Crabtree

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

We'd only have to pay his signing bonus that got extended over his first two years, I thought. That would save us 2.5m, but I'll be honest I could be reading overthecap incorrectly.

He has a $3.9M cap hit this season. There's still $6.4M in signing bonus left in his contract. We'd take that $6.4M hit on our cap space this season unless we wanted to designate him as a post-June 1st cut. 6.4 - 3.9 = 2.5. If he was designated as a post June 1st cut, then he'd hit us at $3.2M this year and next year.

[Riv]

1 minute ago, TheCasillas said:

Smith doesn't stop Crabtree from happening...... I am referring to acquiring both Honey Badger and Crabtree

He doesn't, but to afford both cutting Smith would make a lot of sense with our cap issues and no real need for Smith.