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Josh Norman Status

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1 minute ago, Peppers90 NC said:

my stomach is getting nauseated even stepping into this tired conversation again two years going, i should have just let you guys keep at it. Gman took control of the situation by rescinding the tag, Norman was in control by holding out trying to rip us off like he did the Skins. We had 15M tied up in him and couldnt do anything with it sitting there. Since Norman let it sit for a couple weeks, DG felt it was better to be proactive and take control of the situation. I get it, as fans, we love our players and will stick up for them no matter how ridiculous we sound doing it. Carry on. Anyone crazy enough to think losing Norman is the reason we dropped 9 games or even 5 or 6 or 3 is fugging nutz.

Your stomach should become nauseated from the dumb poo coming out of your brain.. Gman gave control to Norman and his agents as soon as he rescinded the offer.. He grab his ball and went home.. If Norman was still tagged he either play for us or not at all.. How does Norman come out good if he sits out a earning season at 27 years old??

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Oh and to you fuging cowards .. Who keep wanting to announce how much YOU are ignoring me and blocking me.. But it's obvious you are still reading and following my every word ...

Hahaha 

You dumb motherfugers..lol It's okay we got it... You got me blocked.. And to be honest me being block by you is like saying I actually want or try to talk to you!! Which I don't.. I don't quote YOU I don't follow any of your threads with any attempt to take shots at you... Oh and I don't follow your post or conversation with others.. With the lame ass "That's why I have him blocked" or "Just ignore him your life will be better" and "my IQ is better when I stopped reading his post"..and so on duhhhhhhhhhh. .. lol 

Get a life bitches you are taking a difference in opinion between strangers to seriously.. And looking like total pussies while doing it.. If you actually have me blocked and ignore than act like it... You can't be ignoring and blocking .. While following my post telling others to ignore and block me and commenting on something I said. Lol you fuging IDIOTS. 

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I'm indifferent, cause I choose to be unbiased. 

The cards Norman played, got him out of Carolina. 

He got a contract that he never would have gotten from the Panthers. I'm not mad, that's the name of the game!!

I just laugh any time someone blames Gettleman for Norman shitting his bed here in Carolina. 

Our Panthers weren't interested in a 1 year rental of Norman either. Which once again, I completely understand that. It was sign a long term deal with us, or be gone.  Norman made his choice. 

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Yeah, I'm sure ol' Dollar Signs Josh is gonna sign with Carolina for around $8M a year and do the organization a solid because of his big, generous heart.

(P.S. I never a single time held it against Norman that he went for the money.  Good for him.  Its a game that damages your body, many times severely, so get your $$$ while you can.  My only problem is the view of many that Josh is gonna willingly settle for NOT making as much as possible just because being a Carolina Panther is worth the sacrifice in your wallet.  Preposterous.)

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27 minutes ago, Palmetto said:

The Panthers wanted to keep Norman but not over pay and and be forced to release him down the road anyway

Norman always feels like he has something to prove being a late round pick and over looked as one of the best corners. He wanted to stay with the Panthers but wanted a HUGE pay day maybe even be the highest paid CB in the league.  He was playing hardball by not signing the tag which i think he would have signed and played on 

and that's how it should have played out letting him play 2016 on the tag and not resigning or tagging  him 2017 if a long term deal couldn't be reached

 

This is not that hard to understand..

Example..

Levon Bell wants a long term deal.. The Steelers don't want to pay him that much but they also don't want to lose a key cog to their team so they tag him...

He acts like he won't play under the tag.. The steelers don't flinch.. He signs and plays the season out .. Because nobody is leaving 13 mil in one year of work "guaranteed" on the table... Especially when you've barley made 4 mill in your life..

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15 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

I'm indifferent, cause I choose to be unbiased. 

The cards Norman played, got him out of Carolina. 

He got a contract that he never would have gotten from the Panthers. I'm not mad, that's the name of the game!!

I just laugh any time someone blames Gettleman for Norman shitting his bed here in Carolina. 

Our Panthers weren't interested in a 1 year rental of Norman either. Which once again, I completely understand that. It was sign a long term deal with us, or be gone.  Norman made his choice. 

Well That's where we disagree.. I think renting a player for a year to help a young secondary transition into the Nfl is a smart move.. And what most consistently  winning teams do....Throwing a bunch of rookies into the fire "at one position group" seem dumb as fug.. And probably a reason GMan doesn't have back to back winning season  here when he had a superbowl quailty team.. 

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Oh and just to hammer this in to ppl like Peppers91210 or whatever..

Why even use the tag if you are not prepare for a player to not sign it right away.. It's not like this is a new occurrence... Players have been doing this move when being tagged since the tag was invented.. Not only was he not prepared for a player to not bow down to the tag.. He waited till after there was no vet option to replace Norman when he rescinded it.. Then went into the draft having to take 3 CB just to field a secondary... At some point he has to field some blame for even having to big a ego or being unprepared for a common situation that happens in football negotiations...

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1 hour ago, WOW!! said:

Oh and just to hammer this in to ppl like Peppers91210 or whatever..

Why even use the tag if you are not prepare for a player to not sign it right away.. It's not like this is a new occurrence... Players have been doing this move when being tagged since the tag was invented.. Not only was he not prepared for a player to not bow down to the tag.. He waited till after there was no vet option to replace Norman when he rescinded it.. Then went into the draft having to take 3 CB just to field a secondary... At some point he has to field some blame for even having to big a ego or being unprepared for a common situation that happens in football negotiations...

Which is again another reason why I don' understand all of the hero worship GMan still garners.  I think it comes down to those who have a preference for hard ass management over hard working employees.  JNo did nothing wrong or out of the ordinary...  for a exec who is supposed to be impartial and unaffected or motivated by emotions, his entire behavior during those negotiations was personal, petty, and short-sighted.  His actions in that one instance sacrificed the success of an entire season or more (at least specifically the secondary's success) for his ego.

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32 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Well That's where we disagree.. I think renting a player for a year to help a young secondary transition into the Nfl is a smart move.. And what most consistently  winning teams do....Throwing a bunch of rookies into the fire "at one position group" seem dumb as fug.. And probably a reason GMan doesn't have back to back winning season  here when he had a superbowl quailty team.. 

You can disagree all you want to. It does not change the fact that the Panthers we're not interested in a one year rental.

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2 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Which is again another reason why I don' understand all of the hero worship GMan still garners.  I think it comes down to those who have a preference for hard ass management over hard working employees.  JNo did nothing wrong or out of the ordinary...  for a exec who is suppose to be impartial and unaffected or motivated by emotions, his entire behavior during those negotiations were personal, petty, and short-sighted.  His actions in that one instance sacrificed the success of an entire season or more (at least specifically the secondary's success) for his ego.

And we are still trying to rebuild a quality secondary when we had a Superbowl quality secondary.. But some how Gman won that fight?? Hahaha lol..

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5 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

You can disagree all you want to. It done does not change the fact that the Panthers we're not interested in a one year rental.

And they were wrong.. You go from a Superbowl team to a top 10 picking team in 1 off season.. You made bad decisions and you were wrong on your moves...

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1 hour ago, WOW!! said:

Oh and just to hammer this in to ppl like Peppers91210 or whatever..

Why even use the tag if you are not prepare for a player to not sign it right away.. It's not like this is a new occurrence... Players have been doing this move when being tagged since the tag was invented.. Not only was he not prepared for a player to not bow down to the tag.. He waited till after there was no vet option to replace Norman when he rescinded it.. Then went into the draft having to take 3 CB just to field a secondary... At some point he has to field some blame for even having to big a ego or being unprepared for a common situation that happens in football negotiations...

The franchise tag is mostly used just to extend negotiating time.

You do realize, until the player signs the tag, further negotions can't continue. There was never any intention for Norman to play under the franchise tag.

The last offer from the Norman camp showed the panther camp that they were just too far apart and numbers to retain Norman.

the other hypothetical b******* that you listed is a moot point as far as the Norman decision is concerned.

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40 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

And we are still trying to rebuild a quality secondary when we had a Superbowl quality secondary.. But some how Gman won that fight?? Hahaha lol..

I'm not trying to claim gettleman won anything.

 but go ahead and keep banging that drum.

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