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Comparing Ginn and Smith stats pre-Panthers

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Just now, Peppers90 NC said:

Yes, Watkins will get more than 5. Now I could go on about how setting the market influences other players but it may sail right over your head.

setting the market influences affects other players? what an abstract concept ! surely something I would never understand !

 

fug off with your condescending attitude you dumb bitch

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1 minute ago, Seltzer said:

Another good point that the average fan doesn't understand...  part of the reason the Patriots always trade for so many players

This only true because the Eagles carried a club option on Smith for next season, so a release would have made him a qualifying free agent when it comes to compensatory picks.

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1 minute ago, g_d0t said:

setting the market influences affects other players? what an abstract concept ! surely something I would never understand !

 

fug off with your condescending attitude you dumb bitch

condescending it a willy big word for you, atta boy! lol

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6 minutes ago, g_d0t said:

no ones paying more than five for Smith lol.... That's what Watkins is going to get 

you are outside of your mind if you think Watkins is only going to get $5million a year.  LMAO.   Yall please do some research before making a fool of yourself.

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14 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

Ginn:

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Smith:

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My analysis of this trade is that Smith is our no risk try for a Ginn replacement or even upgrade. One takeaway is that Hurney didn’t value Worley at all and he was at risk of just getting cut. Smith has better hands than Ginn (though he’s far from a Larry Fitzgerald) and has throughout his career been a more consistent and more well rounded receiver — though both are mainly pure deep threats. Also note how healthy Smith has been, which is nice to see after Byrd and Samuel last year. Basically we made this move to guarantee us a look at Smith with Cam and if they can develop chemistry similar to Cam and Ginn then we’ll keep him and he’d be well worth the $5M. Otherwise we cut him and there’s no real loss considering Worley wasn’t valued anyways. I’m one of Hurney’s biggest critics here and one of DG’s biggest supporters but I’ll give this move a chance. Could be a home run if Smith and Cam get on the same page early. Exact type of WR we needed the most.

Nice analysis.  His contract is not guaranteed, which means he was about to lose it all anyway.  Smith will probably take a more secured deal at a lower rate.  I like this trade.

I think we still probably draft a WR late, but not a necessity.

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3 minutes ago, Catufb85 said:

you are outside of your mind if you think Watkins is only going to get $5million a year.  LMAO.   Yall please do some research before making a fool of yourself.

"more than five" i'm guessing reading comprehension isn't your strong suite. Learn to read before making a fool of yourself

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35 minutes ago, g_d0t said:

Smith was going to be a cap casualty anyway. he was going to get cut  

WTF is your point?  We got him cheap and didn't have to out bid for him.  Just assuming he would come here is retarded.  Stop it.

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30 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

in 2012 ted ginn had 1 yard. in 2013, with cam newton, his yards increased by 556 times that. by my calculations, torrey smith will gain roughly 239,080 yards in this offense

Math is hard

 

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31 minutes ago, g_d0t said:

no ones paying more than five for Smith lol.... That's what Watkins is going to get 

Watkins will get more like 12-14 million not 5. 

Where do you guys make this stuff up at? 

Torrey just caught clutch balls in the Super Bowl and playoffs from a quarterback he never played with,... that was obviously better at getting him the ball then Wentz.

Who doesn’t want a clutch Super Bowl receiver? Torrey would have gotten 7-9 million or more on the open market.

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2 minutes ago, JARROD said:

Watkins will get more like 12-14 million not 5. 

Where do you guys make this stuff up at? 

Torrey just caught clutch balls in the Super Bowl and playoffs from a quarterback he never played with,... that was obviously better at getting him the ball then Wentz.

Who doesn’t want a clutch Super Bowl receiver? Torrey would have gotten 7-9 million or more on the open market.

DUDEEEE, 12-14 million is elite WR money. No one is going to give that much to a 600 yard/8 td receiver who also problems has staying healthy? Where the fug are you making this stuff up at? Seriously.

 

Torrey 7-9 million? Superbowl clutch receiver? Ealy should be looking at a 15M/year contract in that case 

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4 minutes ago, JARROD said:

Watkins will get more like 12-14 million not 5. 

Where do you guys make this stuff up at? 

Torrey just caught clutch balls in the Super Bowl and playoffs from a quarterback he never played with,... that was obviously better at getting him the ball then Wentz.

Who doesn’t want a clutch Super Bowl receiver? Torrey would have gotten 7-9 million or more on the open market.

Relievers getting paid more than 12m/year:

                                                              Avg/year

Antonio Brown Steelers $68,000,000 $17,000,000 $19,000,000 $4,750,000 27.9% 2022 UFA
DeAndre Hopkins Texans $81,000,000 $16,200,000 $36,500,000 $7,300,000 45.1% 2023 UFA
Jarvis Landry Dolphins $15,982,000 $15,982,000 $0 $0 0.0% 2019 UFA
A.J. Green Bengals $60,000,000 $15,000,000 $26,750,000 $6,687,500 44.6% 2020 UFA
Davante Adams Packers $58,000,000 $14,500,000 $18,000,000 $4,500,000 31.0% 2022 UFA
Julio Jones Falcons $71,250,000 $14,250,000 $35,500,000 $7,100,000 49.8% 2021 UFA
Demaryius Thomas Broncos $70,000,000 $14,000,000 $35,000,000 $7,000,000 50.0% 2020 UFA
Dez Bryant Cowboys $70,000,000 $14,000,000 $32,000,000 $6,400,000 45.7% 2020 UFA
TY Hilton Colts $65,000,000 $13,000,000 $11,000,000 $2,200,000 16.9% 2021 UFA
Alshon Jeffery Eagles $52,000,000 $13,000,000 $14,250,000 $3,562,500 27.4% 2022 UFA

jesus go do your fuging research. Watkins is nowhere close to any of those receivers 

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4 minutes ago, g_d0t said:

Relievers getting paid more than 12m/year:

                                                              Avg/year

Antonio Brown Steelers $68,000,000 $17,000,000 $19,000,000 $4,750,000 27.9% 2022 UFA
DeAndre Hopkins Texans $81,000,000 $16,200,000 $36,500,000 $7,300,000 45.1% 2023 UFA
Jarvis Landry Dolphins $15,982,000 $15,982,000 $0 $0 0.0% 2019 UFA
A.J. Green Bengals $60,000,000 $15,000,000 $26,750,000 $6,687,500 44.6% 2020 UFA
Davante Adams Packers $58,000,000 $14,500,000 $18,000,000 $4,500,000 31.0% 2022 UFA
Julio Jones Falcons $71,250,000 $14,250,000 $35,500,000 $7,100,000 49.8% 2021 UFA
Demaryius Thomas Broncos $70,000,000 $14,000,000 $35,000,000 $7,000,000 50.0% 2020 UFA
Dez Bryant Cowboys $70,000,000 $14,000,000 $32,000,000 $6,400,000 45.7% 2020 UFA
TY Hilton Colts $65,000,000 $13,000,000 $11,000,000 $2,200,000 16.9% 2021 UFA
Alshon Jeffery Eagles $52,000,000 $13,000,000 $14,250,000 $3,562,500 27.4% 2022 UFA

jesus go do your fuging research. Watkins is nowhere close to any of those receivers 

Watch and see and I promise I will bump this for you.

Sammy Watkins > Alshon Jeffrey, Dez Bryant, Davante Adams, and others.

so I disagree with you. 

 

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