Free Agency Notes and Speculation

[Riv]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Nope. I'd rather give Samuel those snaps. They're basically the same player and Samuel is younger with more upside.

The hypocrisy of your posting today is laughable...

Smith?  We needed him b/c byrd/samuels live in a hospital.

Tavon Austin?  Nah, I'd rather give those snaps to Samuel.

 

lololololololol

[poorboysrev]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He ended up on IR twice in one season. If that's not a red flag, what is? As far as I know, it still hasn't even been announced exactly what happened with his "lower leg injury".

Right...I mean why in gods name would we see any wisdom in not betting the farm it doesn't happen again 

 

5 minutes ago, Riv said:

Again.  None of the rest of your argument is valid.  The key here is should we have gotten a redundant player or spent that $5 mil on an actual upgrade at a position of need.  Basically you're telling me Smith was an insurance policy.  Not a very good use of a good portion of your cap room when we have glaring holes all over the field.

I mean who do you think we were bringing in at 5 mil that was so much better? We had no one last year that scared teams deep once Byrd and Samuels were gone. I was a Ginn fan would much rather have him than Smith but unfortunately the Panthers didn't ask my opinion on it. Just saying acting like it's the worst decision in the world is overdramatic. The contracts not even guaranteed meaning we can cut him in training camp if he looks like ass and grab a player during cuts.  Is funny you think you get to decide if someone else's opinion is valid or not just cause they disagree with you. Drink a six pack or take up weed man

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, Peppers90 NC said:

I can't and he wasnt a player in question. I liked Worley personally.

Goes to Ron's judgement of a players value.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

How were the signs there that his ankle would be obliterated during a tackle in which all an opposing players weight fell on his lower leg and ankle?

Two significant ankle injuries are definitely concerning. If you want to just pretend they're not, fine.

[Shocker]

Really dont want to see Suh end up in our division.  

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Riv said:

The hypocrisy of your posting today is laughable...

Smith?  We needed him b/c byrd/samuels live in a hospital.

Tavon Austin?  Nah, I'd rather give those snaps to Samuel.

 

lololololololol

Wrong. We could use Smith because we sorely lack a true deep threat. That's what Smith is.

Austin is just another utility player in the same mold as Samuel and I'd rather give our former 2nd round pick the opportunity to get those snaps. Yeah, I'm concerned about his durability, but not so much that I want to rush out and spend money on a redundant player.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, poorboysrev said:

I mean who do you think we were bringing in at 5 mil that was so much better? We had no one last year that scared teams deep once Byrd and Samuels were gone. I was a Ginn fan would much rather have him than Smith but unfortunately the Panthers didn't ask my opinion on it. Just saying acting like it's the worst decision in the world is overdramatic. The contracts not even guaranteed meaning we can cut him in training camp if he looks like ass and grab a player during cuts.  Is funny you think you get to decide if someone else's opinion is valid or not just cause they disagree with you. Drink a six pack or take up weed man

At 5 million, probably no one.  Hypothetically though, you could have had a younger, up and coming Albert Wilson for only 3 million more.  Some of the other second tier guys may end up signing for something similar.

Smith is a stopgap.  Wilson and potentially Moncrief would not be.

[Peppers90 NC]

3 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Really dont want to see Suh end up in our division.  

ouch what if TB teamed him up with McCoy?

[Jon Snow]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Two significant ankle injuries are definitely concerning. If you want to just pretend they're not, fine.

And TD had 3 ACL tears, so?  poo happens.  It's a violent sport.  If he was IR,d for hang nails or or out for minor poo sure.   Hell, if he missed a lot while in college then maybe, just maybe you would have a point.  In this case I just think you are dismissing the guy for misguided reasons.

[Riv]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Wrong. We could use Smith because we sorely lack a true deep threat. That's what Smith is.

Austin is just another utility player in the same mold as Samuel and I'd rather give our former 2nd round pick the opportunity to get those snaps. Yeah, I'm concerned about his durability, but not so much that I want to rush out and spend money on a redundant player.

....but you were OK with trading for Smith, who will take reps away from a younger guy in Byrd, who's in the same mold as Torrey Smith and TS in fact, redundant.

[LinvilleGorge]

Wait, I forgot that this is the Huddle on the eve of free agency. I'm doing this all wrong.

*Huddle logic on* We needz to bakc laod all the curent contractz to free up teh cap space and then sign all teh big name free agentz!!! We should hav kept Norwell and had too of the five highest pade guards in teh NFL!!! Sign Robinson AND Watkins!!!"

fast forward two years...

"Oh noes!!! We're in teh cap hell!!! Fugin' dumbass Hurney!!! I knew this wuld happen!!!"

[Shocker]

Just now, Peppers90 NC said:

ouch what if TB teamed him up with McCoy?

Word is Atlanta wants him.  Ugg

[poorboysrev]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

At 5 million, probably no one.  Hypothetically though, you could have had a younger, up and coming Albert Wilson for only 3 million more.  Some of the other second tier guys may end up signing for something similar.

Smith is a stopgap.  Wilson and potentially Moncrief would not be.

Oh yeah I agree...I wouldn't mind getting either of those guys. I'm certainly not president of the Torrey smith fan club just know we need someone who can go deep and catch a go route over their shoulder from Cam so at least see some sense in the move 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

And TD had 3 ACL tears, so?  poo happens.  It's a violent sport.  If he was IR,d for hang nails or or out for minor poo sure.   Hell, if he missed a lot while in college then maybe, just maybe you would have a point.  In this case I just think you are dismissing the guy for misguided reasons.

There's always outliers. The list of guys to successfully return from three ACL injuries at the time TD did it was nonexistent. I'm not dismissing Samuel at all but I'm also not pretending that there is zero cause for concern. Foot/ankle issues tend to be recurring. See: Stewart, Jonathan.