Gano signs 4 yr $17 Million w/ $9 Million Guaranteed

[panthers55]

3 hours ago, TheRed said:

Comparing him to Kasay is absurd.

You are conveniently omitting the fact that last year we didn't even let him attempt anything above 50. Kasay routinely boomed those with ease.

Didn't he kick a 58 yarder and made it in the playoffs against New Orleans?

[TheRed]

6 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Didn't he kick a 58 yarder and made it in the playoffs against New Orleans?

Did he attempt any in the regular season? I don't recall if he did. Those numbers he's using for comparison primarily only include regular season.

But to your point. He made a 58 yarder in the postseason but in the same game he missed a gimme from barely 25. Do you define that as clutch?

[panthers55]

2 minutes ago, Toomers said:

Well I wasn’t around for the Hardy tag. So you have 1(or2) over 4-5 years? But you defend every move(or 99.9%) in those same threads. Yes or No? 

Of course not. I could tell you plenty others but again I support the team and even when they make a move I didn't like for example not signing Ginn.last year, letting him go in 2013, I usually take a let's see attitude instead of coming on here bitching and complaining over and over as if my.opinion mattered or changed anything. You want more I didn't agree with? I got plenty buy you don't know it because I don't innundate every thread with my complaints. You want me to tell you about how Gettleman really screwed the pooch dumping Norman. I got lots I could complain about but usually don't.

[panthers55]

1 minute ago, TheRed said:

Did he attempt any in the regular season? I don't recall if he did. Those numbers he's using for comparison primarily only include regular season.

But to your point. He made a 58 yarder in the postseason but in the same game he missed a gimme from barely 25. Do you define that as clutch?

He attempted one from beyond 50 and it was his only miss if I remember correctly. Was the 25 yarder clutch? Hardly. Was the 58 yarder? Yep. Was the game winner against New England in New England? Yep. Is he Vinatieri type clutch? Who is really?

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

Of course not. I could tell you plenty others but again I support the team and even when they make a move I didn't like for example not signing Ginn.last year, letting him go in 2013, I usually take a let's see attitude instead of coming on here bitching and complaining over and over as if my.opinion mattered or changed anything. You want more I didn't agree with? I got plenty buy you don't know it because I don't innundate every thread with my complaints. You want me to tell you about how Gettleman really screwed the pooch dumping Norman. I got lots I could complain about but usually don't.

 Hey, that’s fine. But how many posts do you make defending these moves. Then “chastise” any negative view on the subject, like we are not up to your lofty standards of fandom. I post positive and negative. Just posting one point of view renders a persons opinion meaningless. 

[KendrickPanther]

5 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I can't imagine it's that bad.

Well I could imagine, but I don't think it will be.

Our last three kicker contracts have been that bad. Kicker is the one position you never want in a sentence with "uncuttable"

[TheSpecialJuan]

[TheSpecialJuan]

[Mr. Scot]

 

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, Toomers said:

 Hey, that’s fine. But how many posts do you make defending these moves. Then “chastise” any negative view on the subject, like we are not up to your lofty standards of fandom. I post positive and negative. Just posting one point of view renders a persons opinion meaningless. 

You are welcome to your views and have every right to express them. The only comment I made was to stop going in every thread and make the same negative comments about Hurney for example as if saying it over and over makes it right and drowns out everyone else with a different opinion.  Everyone has a right to their opinion not just the half dozen who monopolize every thread with the same tiresome complaints.

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

 

The same LeVeon Bell who turned down a contract for 3 years and 42 million in 2017?

[TheSpecialJuan]

Panthers re-sign K Graham Gano (4 years, $17 million; $9 million guaranteed): D- Grade
When the Panthers made the utterly stupid decision to keep Marty Hurney as their full-time general manager, their fans had to know many bad contracts would be on the horizon. This is the first of many.

Graham Gano was a near-perfect 29-of-30 in 2017, though that's a bit misleading. He didn't make a single 50-yarder (until the playoffs), and he whiffed on three extra points. Prior to 2017, he had failed to drill better than 83.3 percent of his kicks in all but one year (2013). Gano has missed three extra points in each of the past three seasons. He's not a bad kicker, but he's not very good either.

With that in mind, what the hell are the Panthers doing by giving him $9 million in guarantees? This is just stupid, and I may have to begin referring to awful contracts as Hurneys going forward.

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[Proudiddy]

I think it's a fairly reasonable deal.  My only issue in this whole Gano contract situation is, if you thought he and Butker were that close in talent that you held onto Butker for several weeks into the season on the active roster, why not keep the younger guy who is on his rookie deal?  That would've likely netted us with not only the better kicker but also having the ability to avoid a significant pay raise for several years at the position.  Oh well...  

But, again, as far as this deal, I guess it's as good as I could have hoped for.

[ras977]

2 hours ago, panthers55 said:

He attempted one from beyond 50 and it was his only miss if I remember correctly. Was the 25 yarder clutch? Hardly. Was the 58 yarder? Yep. Was the game winner against New England in New England? Yep. Is he Vinatieri type clutch? Who is really?

The Bronco's miss was devastating---