Coleman to saints 3yrs

[Toker Smurf]

35 minutes ago, Toomers said:

 They are basically choosing him over Vaccaro. Not a good trade IMO. 

 And they have 18M dead cap hit they have to roll into Brees new contract on top of what they pay him to play this year.  Which makes committing to a player like Coleman even more baffling. 

I get it. It's just that everybody likes to point at the Saints or Redskins and how they spend too much money in free agency. 'Oh, they are setting themselves up for ' salary cap hell'. But you know what? They'll sign more free agents than us this year and next year. Does it work? No, not usually but that's more because of WHO they sign than how they sign them for. We'll be conservative, so that every third year, we can sign 'a Matt Kalil'. It seems to me that some GMs just know how to work the cap. Some know how to evaluate talent. We need someone who can do both. 

P. S. That's not Hurney. 

[saints4lifeagain]

13 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

There's no way they're paying him that much to have a smaller role like that. He'll be an every down starter. Otherwise it's a ridiculously stupid deal for that much money, and it's probably overpaying even as a starter. Kurt was not great this year but he did have some injuries and the rest of the secondary was bad too. And one thing I'll say is this dude is the hardest working MFer on the team, no matter what team he's on. Every day at TC before the 2015 season he was first on the field by far and last one off. Hopefully for us we'll grab a wideout this year (Ridley, Watkins, other FA or draft pick, etc.) who will be able to easily walk all over Coleman like many NFCS receivers did against him with us. He was great in '15, slightly above average in '16 and slightly below average last year. Remains to be seen what you'll get out of him.

We play in a 3 safety set a lot. Wouldn't really be a limited role. 

The 3 for 18 is useless anyway. Who knows how it's structured. It could be basically 1 for 6 or 2 for 10. 

[Toomers]

6 minutes ago, Cam El said:

I get it. It's just that everybody likes to point at the Saints or Redskins and how they spend too much money in free agency. 'Oh, they are setting themselves up for ' salary cap hell'. But you know what? They'll sign more free agents than us this year and next year. Does it work? No, not usually but that's more because of WHO they sign than how they sign them for. We'll be conservative, so that every third year, we can sign 'a Matt Kalil'. It seems to me that some GMs just know how to work the cap. Some know how to evaluate talent. We need someone who can do both. 

  As you said, does it work. Not much. So who cares if they win every offseason. Plus, it’s easier to “kick the can down the road” cap wise, when you know you’re blowing the team up when Brees calls it quits unless they stumble onto a QB somehow. 

  Hurney used to do this same thing every year. Gettleman basically did it with Matt Kalil from the start. All the risk was in 2019-20. Every GM knows how to do it. The question is if you should. Doing it with a franchise QB, who you know you will never cut, isn’t a bad idea at all. Other players, no. 

[t96]

9 minutes ago, saints4lifeagain said:

We play in a 3 safety set a lot. Wouldn't really be a limited role. 

The 3 for 18 is useless anyway. Who knows how it's structured. It could be basically 1 for 6 or 2 for 10. 

It's $6.5M this year. That's a ton for him.

[Hoenheim]

Wow thats really good for Coleman considering he had a absolutely putrid season last year. 

I mean, I guess I can't knock the chance that he ends up balling out on the Saints kinda like how Ginn totally changed when he joined up with them. Even Dwill killed it with the Steelers after leaving us.  Wish him the best. 

[LinvilleGorge]

*wrong thread

[steven8989]

1 hour ago, Cam El said:

I get it. It's just that everybody likes to point at the Saints or Redskins and how they spend too much money in free agency. 'Oh, they are setting themselves up for ' salary cap hell'. But you know what? They'll sign more free agents than us this year and next year. Does it work? No, not usually but that's more because of WHO they sign than how they sign them for. We'll be conservative, so that every third year, we can sign 'a Matt Kalil'. It seems to me that some GMs just know how to work the cap. Some know how to evaluate talent. We need someone who can do both. 

P. S. That's not Hurney. 

Yeah Gettleman was great at bringing guys in as well. It's Richardson not wanting to spend the money I get tired of everyone blaming GMs. We have a tight ass owner. Until we get an owner that wants to spend money to win a super bowl, it won't never happen!!!!

 

[luke nukem]

2 hours ago, saints4lifeagain said:

It could be basically 1 for 6 or 2 for 10. 

lol @ that alone tbh fam.

[TheSpecialJuan]

crazy

[TheSpecialJuan]

Keep in mind that the Saints also claimed John Theus off waivers last week. That's 4 former Panthers on their roster.

[MrBubba]

He signs with Saints that quick, he is in a revenge state of mind.  

[Manther]

Coleman got burned in coverage this year and missed games due to injuries. He did have some awesome hits.   Last year wasn't stellar either.   But our secondary across the board has pretty much sucked for the last two years...and that is undoubtedly on Gettleman...not just for Norman but for letting nearly all of them go that year and replacing them with rookies.  Some say, Bradberry and Worely sucked because of the safeties.  Others say the safeties sucked because of Bradberry and Worely.   The whole situation sucks and will continue to suck until we have to invest serious dollars here.

The Saints know how to stick it to us with our former players.  If Coleman is holding the broom next year after they sweep us, I'm kicking this thread.