Could We Be Planning to Move James Bradberry to FS?

[Snake]

Bradberry will be better out of Wilks "let's just call every blitz in the book"  scheme. I never thought you could blitz too much till I saw him. 

[Moo Daeng]

51 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Measurables are really overrated.

I don't mean this in a rude or terse way, just really as a point of emphasis: Measurables without instincts ain't poo. 

 

I'm responding to your claim of skill. Normans instincts were dreadful for at least 3 years.

[Davidson Deac II]

2 hours ago, top dawg said:

With all due respect,  J-No always had the talent, skill and instincts.   His problem was trying to freelance,  and the coaches (especially Rivera) weren't going for it.  Once J-No bought in, he earned his starting role back and the rest was history.  

I'm highly skeptical that either Bradberry or Worley have the talent and instincts to be consistent. J-No never looked as bad as they have at times. 

IMO, at times he looked worse, because he tried to free lance.  But I wasn't saying that either would be as good as Norman, as he was probably the best corner we had, at least for a year and a half.  But its a little to early to write them off as marginal talent.  

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, Hoenheim said:

Exactly this. Our team historically doesnt given a flying fug about drafting safties in general . Here is our history drafting Safteys in the last 10 years :

2008 : Charles Goddfrey , 3rd Round

2010 : Jordan Pugh , 6th Round

2012 : DJ Campbell, 7th Round

2014 : Tre Boston, 3rd Round

So we haven't drafted a saftey in 4 years, and that saftey we drafted is no longer on the team lol. Never more than a 3rd rounder on a saftey in the last decade. And only 4 total picked in 10 years. Its mostly horrible talent evaluation and not taking the saftey position seriously at all. Its no wonder why we eventually got to the point where we had a couple of sub six feet aging safety getting torched by most WRs in the league. 

Its just past time for us to spend either a 1st or 2nd on a saftey, we haven't done that since Thomas Davis and he ended up at LB so that doesnt really count.

Also in that same period, the only DEs taken in the first two rounds were Everett Brown and Kony Ealy, two huge busts . 

S and DE are overdue for high selections . 

 

Boston was a 4th rounder. A late 4th rounder at that.

[Diehardpanther02]

4 hours ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

No rumors or anything, but it's something that has been mentioned by some folks here in the past.

I generally dismissed the idea last off-season given how good he was at CB as a rookie, but after struggling there in year 2 - and with us releasing Kurt Coleman, but apparently planning to keep Mike Adams - I wonder if Bradberry at free safety is something they're considering.

He's certainly got the size for it, as well as the ball skills and isn't a bad tackler either. His experience at CB could also prove vital if he were to switch positions. Suddenly he'd go from being a marginal cover man at CB to really solid in coverage as a FS, where he's not asked to matchup with the other team's #1 WR all game.

With the talk of the Redskins possibly releasing Josh Norman, we could end up bringing him back to upgrade Bradberry's spot at CB, draft another starter in the 1st or 2nd round, move Bradberry to FS, and draft a young strong safety in the 2nd or 3rd round to compete with Mike Adams, and hopefully replace him.

I think Bradberry can play; I'm just not sure we're putting him in the best position to allow this team to get the maximum return on the pick we invested in him. He can be an average to slightly above/below average CB and have a decent career in the NFL, but he has the skillset and traits to be a much better safety, IMO.

Bradberrys ball skills aren't that great. He just wins by being in the right place.

Worley's ball skills are better. But he's never in the right place. For some reason I see some Josh Norman in his early years in Worleys game.

[top dawg]

7 hours ago, My Goodness My Guinness said:

This couldn’t be more false. Josh Norman looked absolutely terrible during his first 2 seasons. Neither Worley or Bradberry have played close to that bad. Not saying the switch will click with them like it did Josh but that statement is not true whatsoever.

 

6 hours ago, Moo Daeng said:

I'm responding to your claim of skill. Normans instincts were dreadful for at least 3 years.

 

I don't know how in the hell he looked so "terrible his first two seasons" and "dreadful for at least 3 years," when he barely played year two,  and in year three was when he seized his opportunity and essentially cemented his status as an up-and-coming star.  

I don't want to get bogged down in hyperbolic opinions, so I'll just say that Norman showed more promise, and that's why the coaches always thought that he was going to be special,  even as he sat on the bench.  His instincts and ball skills were simply superior, and he didn't have bad athleticism either.  

[Khyber53]

5 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

IMO, at times he looked worse, because he tried to free lance.  But I wasn't saying that either would be as good as Norman, as he was probably the best corner we had, at least for a year and a half.  But its a little to early to write them off as marginal talent.  

The best corner Carolina has played was Chris Gamble, hands down. The Silent Assassin never talked big, he just made such an impact early on that for the last four years of his career, other teams simply quit throwing to his half of the field. No crazy talk, no "Pay Me The Money" shouts, just cool professionalism and competence from his first start to his swan song game. 

One of the most underappreciated Panthers ever. (And a darned good guy all around, too.)

[top dawg]

8 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

The best corner Carolina has played was Chris Gamble, hands down. The Silent Assassin never talked big, he just made such an impact early on that for the last four years of his career, other teams simply quit throwing to his half of the field. No crazy talk, no "Pay Me The Money" shouts, just cool professionalism and competence from his first start to his swan song game. 

One of the most underappreciated Panthers ever. (And a darned good guy all around, too.)

I can go along with that, but Norman's 2015 season was the best single season out of a corner that I've seen in our franchise history. 

Plus,  a little swag is a good things sometimes.  I'm not hating on Norman for that. 

[1989]

I actually just switched him in Madden. 

[MHS831]

About Bradberry.

He had the #1 WR most of the time.  You make Bradberry better by bringing in a good safety and you bring in a good CB who can cover the 1s.  For this reason, we could grab a top CB in the first or a rather costly free agent.

He will be fine.

[top dawg]

21 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

About Bradberry.

He had the #1 WR most of the time.  You make Bradberry better by bringing in a good safety and you bring in a good CB who can cover the 1s.  For this reason, we could grab a top CB in the first or a rather costly free agent.

He will be fine.

I hope you're right.  I just saw too many bad angles, some missed tackles and, frankly, missed PI calls against him.  If he could just hold his own...This is the year for it to all come together. 

Short of us landing Matthieu in FA, you might just get your wish.  We should probably draft Derwin James if he is on the board (I'm serious). The only thing that worries me is the compelling reason for an RB. But I think that safety should be more compelling. I don't see how we don't draft a safety with one of the first two picks.  James in the draft! J-No in FA!  Then we'll see if your theory about Bradberry is correct.  

[MHS831]

4 minutes ago, top dawg said:

I hope you're right.  I just saw too many bad angles, some missed  Then we'll see if your theory about Bradberry is correct.  

And that is what it is--a theory.  What you said is correct.  Was he outmatched?  Asked to do too much? We shall see.  I like the CB draft, but not that the top end.  Fingers crossed

[Cyberjag]

We've moved DBs around before with Sherrod Martin, a FS at Troy who played CB in Carolina.  Charles Godfrey was a CB at Iowa and we switched him to FS.  Thomas Davis was originally slated to play SS.  So who knows?

[Davidson Deac II]

3 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

The best corner Carolina has played was Chris Gamble, hands down. The Silent Assassin never talked big, he just made such an impact early on that for the last four years of his career, other teams simply quit throwing to his half of the field. No crazy talk, no "Pay Me The Money" shouts, just cool professionalism and competence from his first start to his swan song game. 

One of the most underappreciated Panthers ever. (And a darned good guy all around, too.)

Considering the length of time he played here, I agree.  For about a year and a half though, Norman was dominant in a way that no other Panther corner had been.