Big difference in cut players attitudes

[Car123]

Just now, Fox007 said:

We had high morale when we resigned a 2-14 team to super contracts and extended Jake. Worked out well. MORALE!

rofl check out these jokers...JR was made for fools like this no wonder it went on for so long and as easily as it did.

What does this post have to do with handling the release of a player better?

[ickmule]

I’d take Getts all day over Hurndog.  I could give a rats ass what cut players think.  

[Fox007]

17 minutes ago, Car123 said:

What does this post have to do with handling the release of a player better?

I don't care about the handling of the release of a player. I wanna talk MORALE and Moral victories.

Not entertaining a fool who thinks morale is based on how a boss tells you that you're fired. Like "man I would be happy today but if i get cut ole Dave'll be mean". 0 impact on active morale and IDGAF about the morale of a player no longer on the squad people get mad if it's legit or not or if it's mean or not or some don't care regardless....it doesn't matter.

Just like in the "real world" people just go missing one day from work and most people won't know why or how unless the person tells them how it was done. Then of those people most won't care and out of the entire company it's nothing close to enough to make any sort of difference whatsoever. Most people on NFL teams don't/won't care as a lot of them are in and out of squads/line ups and are just trying to make sure their poo is squared away. The people who would have time to worry about that bullshit are not in position to care because those people have their money and spot. Yea man all the fugin journeyman players gonna be like...naw man i'mma go sign my 500k deal elsewhere cuz muh firin was mean. Then the star players are set until their 30s when they know its coming anyway and only the morons are caught off guard by it as it fugin happens every year in the NFL.

[Car123]

25 minutes ago, ickmule said:

I’d take Getts all day over Hurndog.  I could give a rats ass what cut players think.  

I know it’s hard to believe, but players aren’t inanimate chess pieces.

[KendrickPanther]

Kurt and CJ are decent guys... It says more about them than the General Manager. We've had a good Coach, locker room, and fan base since 2011. And that says something about Cam.

[panthers55]

4 hours ago, frash.exe said:

what the fug do you know about how a professional environment works exactly? have you been out in the real world? bc if you have ever worked for a high output conglomerate you know that you have to leave your fee fees and reservations you have about the professionalism of higher bracketed departments or your superiors at the door.

You obviously worked for a dick company. I was an account executive for 5 years in a top 100 company and they were professional and decent to each other and their customers. They are not mutually exclusive and top companies know that. Sorry that your experience was difficult. I hope you have better luck in the future.

[WOW!!]

1 hour ago, Fox007 said:

So you're going to act like image conscious JR isn't selling the team because of fugin image problems....??

JR is and has always been an out of touch/in his own head type of person. WTF are on about "debacle" literally not 1 single person outside Panther nation cares about that and most IN Panthers nation still don't.

That wasn't the fuging question.. He said that JR fired Gman based on his treatment of TD and Olsen in their negotiations alone..  The question wasn't if JR was a hypocrite the question was if JR had a problem with Gman treatment of former players before.. And yes he did..

You can be the hard negotiater with no feelings type.. But your results better be more consistent than 1 good season then a bad one..

[top dawg]

Players can sign anywhere when they are free agents. They do talk. And believe it or not reputations, negative or positive, are earned.  So,  yeah,  releasing players in a negative way,  especially star players, future HOFers,  or men known to be stand-up individuals, like Beason, can have negative repercussions.  

I don't know why it's seemingly so hard to understand that being an asshole of a GM is not mandatory to be successful. Most GMs and players realize that business is business,  but also realize that you don't have to be "extra," bordering on unprofessional, to get the job done.  It's that simple.  

Like I said earlier in the thread,  I really haven't seen such a personal disdain for a GM in all the years that I've followed football.  That says something. 

[WOW!!]

4 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Players can sign anywhere when they are free agents. They do talk. And believe it or not reputations, negative or positive, are earned.  So,  yeah,  releasing players in a negative way,  especially star players, future HOFers,  or men known to be stand-up individuals, like Beason, can have negative repercussions.  

I don't know why it's seemingly so hard to understand that being an asshole of a GM is not mandatory to be successful. Most GMs and players realize that business is business,  but also realize that you don't have to be "extra," bordering on unprofessional, to get the job done.  It's that simple.  

Like I said earlier in the thread,  I really haven't seen such a personal disdain for a GM in all the years that I've followed football.  That says something. 

Good post.. I also think you can be that way if you have the results or better planning when you do poo like this..

If you got the rings and the proven system you can be a asshole.. 

Bobby Knight got away with it for years until he started losing ..

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Players can sign anywhere when they are free agents. They do talk. And believe it or not reputations, negative or positive, are earned.  So,  yeah,  releasing players in a negative way,  especially star players, future HOFers,  or men known to be stand-up individuals, like Beason, can have negative repercussions.  

I don't know why it's seemingly so hard to understand that being an asshole of a GM is not mandatory to be successful. Most GMs and players realize that business is business,  but also realize that you don't have to be "extra," bordering on unprofessional, to get the job done.  It's that simple.  

Like I said earlier in the thread,  I really haven't seen such a personal disdain for a GM in all the years that I've followed football.  That says something. 

I've heard that argument before 

When people stop signing with the Browns, Bengals and Chargers, I might start to take it seriously.

[Bigdaddy8523]

5 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I truly hope many of the posters on this board are not in management positions. You'd be fuging terrible at it. Like I said earlier, you can do your job without being an asshole about it. Firing someone sucks. Even someone that needs firing. Even someone you don't necessarily like. Anytime you have to do it makes for a shitty day at work but it can be done with class and in a way that allows the person to retain their dignity.

Its very clear which one's of us deal with these situations and which one's never have by the I don't give a poo response. But as someone that has been fired before by a dick company and management. It's wasn't about being let go it was the way they done it. Now that I'm in management yeah I've had to make the tough decisions for the good of the company and the hard working employees but treating the bad ones like poo never helped any situation I can tell y'all from experience.

[WOW!!]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I've heard that argument before 

When people stop signing with the Browns, Bengals and Chargers, I might start to take it seriously.

What big free agent have the Browns and Bengals gotten lately??

[top dawg]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

Good post.. I also think you can be that way if you have the results or better planning when you do poo like this..

If you got the rings and the proven system you can be a asshole.. 

Bobby Knight got away with it for years until he started losing ..

I actually thought if Knight earlier today when thinking about this thread.  

I think it's true to a point,  but the big difference is that college players are glorified kids. Grown ass men who are paid professionals are only going to put up with so much. And,  it's a new day in time too?! 

Even as hard and demanding as Belichick is,  players have plenty of good things to say about the man. I've never heard players insinuate that he's an asshole. Now fans might think he's a cheating asshole,  but I haven't heard that from the players (not even Randy Moss,  that JAG receiver that he cut before the Super Bowl that used to play for us,  or Malcolm Butler). 

[Snake]

7 hours ago, thomas96 said:

Has nothing to do with DG or Hurney at all. CJ and Kurt are class acts. D-Will and Smitty are not.

Basically this.