Hurney and drafting receivers

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, you can blame the GM for that. Hardy was available in the 6th round largely due to serious off the field concerns.

He Was a 6thround round pick.. You take fliers and nothing in his past said he Was a women beater who liked having guns.. Show me what in his past said that..

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4 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

He Was a 6thround round pick.. You take fliers and nothing in his past said he Was a women beater who liked having guns.. Show me what in his past said that..

He was suspended in definitely in college (turned into only two games because, well Ole Miss) and I'm pretty sure the reasoning other than "violation of team rules" was never disclosed but I have a feeling that most if not all NFL teams probably knew why and that probably played a big role in him lasting until the 6th round.

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4 minutes ago, Gin and Juice said:

It was a bad pick! So before everyone claims it was a good pick....It wasn’t. Could have been a good pick! Coulda been an insane Hall of Fame pick, but it was a Sherrod Martin kind of pick. Both sucked and we’re out of the league in 5 years basically, just for different reasons

W tf are you talking about?? You just gave Gettelmen credit for players who only been in the league a year.. 

Come on dog... You are contradicting yourself and saying a whole bunch of BS.. 

If you're giving Bradbarry and Shaq picks credit for being good .. Then I can add way more to Hurney's list..

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2 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

He Was a 6thround round pick.. You take fliers and nothing in his past said he Was a women beater who liked having guns.. Show me what in his past said that..

His entire high school and collegiate campaign was marred by poor choices. Look, Hardy was the original Vontaze Burfict. Everyone in the draft knew what he was capable of, good and bad. That wasn’t a diamond in the rough find! He did more harm to our franchise than he ever did for the good! Almost 14mil I’m cap space vanished because of him

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

He was suspended in definitely in college (turned into only two games because, well Ole Miss) and I'm pretty sure the reasoning other than "violation of team rules" was never disclosed but I have a feeling that most if not all NFL teams probably knew why and that probably played a big role in him lasting until the 6th round.

Again none of that says choke women and throw her on guns..He was also hurt a lot which dropped him as well.. But Nobody saw that coming.. Not Hurney not Gettelmen not anybody..

[Gin and Juice]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

W tf are you talking about?? You just gave Gettelmen credit for players who only been in the league a year.. 

Come on dog... You are contradicting yourself and saying a whole bunch of BS.. 

If you're giving Bradbarry and Shaq picks credit for being good .. Then I can add way more to Hurney's list..

I’m saying they are solid players/starters for how long they have been in the league! The jury is out on the remaining players. 

You act like I’m anointing Worley as a future pro bowler

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3 minutes ago, Gin and Juice said:

His entire high school and collegiate campaign was marred by poor choices. Look, Hardy was the original Vontaze Burfict. Everyone in the draft knew what he was capable of, good and bad. That wasn’t a diamond in the rough find! He did more harm to our franchise than he ever did for the good! Almost 14mil I’m cap space vanished because of him

Show me links please.. I'm sorry I need proof..

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, WOW!! said:

Again none of that says choke women and throw her on guns..He was also hurt a lot which dropped him as well.. But Nobody saw that coming.. Not Hurney not Gettelmen not anybody..

We don't know what the reasoning for the suspension was. No telling what we should or shouldn't have seen coming. But, there were definitely some HUGE red flags for a guy with prototypical NFL size and athleticism with 39.5 sacks in the SEC to last until the 6th round. Gotta think he probably had to simply be off of a lot of draft boards for that to happen.

[Gin and Juice]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

Again none of that says choke women and throw her on guns..He was also hurt a lot which dropped him as well.. But Nobody saw that coming.. Not Hurney not Gettelmen not anybody..

Meh, I sensed potential trouble from him. What exactly? Hard to tell, but I knew it could be bad enough to get him bounced. I had him failing drug test constantly, so he proved me wrong 

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1 minute ago, Gin and Juice said:

I’m saying they are solid players/starters for how long they have been in the league! The jury is out on the remaining players. 

You act like I’m anointing Worley as a future pro bowler

Again I can add way more to my list if this is your set criteria.. and Again Hardy's  5 season meets that criteria 

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We don't know what the reasoning for the suspension was. No telling what we should or shouldn't have seen coming. But, there were definitely some HUGE red flags for a guy with prototypical NFL size and athleticism with 39.5 sacks in the SEC to last until the 6th round. Gotta think he probably had to simply be off of a lot of draft boards for that to happen.

You still only spent a 6th round pick on him.. That's when you make pics like that.. And wait didn't we get a higher comp pick when he left?

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17 minutes ago, Gin and Juice said:

Jake was one of those lucky moments that had me thinking Hurney was a viable GM for a few years

This is BS and you know it..

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3 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Again I can add way more to my list if this is your set criteria.. and Again Hardy's  5 season meets that criteria 

Yep! As much as Charles Godfrey or Fua fits the criteria

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

You still only spent a 6th round pick on him.. That's when you make pics like that.. And wait didn't we get a higher comp pick when he left?

But I wonder what we had to give up when we were forced to leave $13M in cap space on the sidelines when he got put on the commissioner's exempt list after he was franchised?

When a guy has enough red flags that the entire NFL is passing on him over and over and over again - even teams like the Bengals and Raiders - it's a really good indication that you probably should too.