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It's Official. Hurney is the GM

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@Mr. Scot Does this change your perspective at all? 

 

 

"I have a source telling me the icing on the cake that lead to the fallout between Ron and Dave and eventually his "firing" was his unwavering loyalty to Mike Shula. Obviously tensions were already present due to the  botched handling of the Josh Norman situation and the subsequent draft. 

Rivera wanted him gone after the disappointing 2016 season. Of course publicly he wasn't going to say it but behind closed doors he'd "had enough". Dave on the other hand wasn't so keen on changing things up. Afterall, we were only a season removed from a SB appearance. Dave had the mindset that we were only another "player or two away" from seeing Shula's system really blossom into a juggernaut. 

Eventually tensions boiled over to the point Ron presented Richardson with a "It's me or him" ultimatum. Jerry called a meeting with Dave in a last ditch effort to smooth things over. Long story short Gettleman refused to budge on the issue and immediately resigned from his position. Jerry being Jerry wanted the story coming out to be that he had been fired (you know how his ego is) and now here we are. 

Shula would have been relieved of his duties at the same time Gettleman was but Norv had informed Ron that he wasn't quite ready to get back into it but would definitely be ready at the conclusion of the 2017 season. Make no mistake about it, the Norv hiring was a year in the making. 

Initially I was hesitant to believe it but after hearing the stories coming out of New York about how Shula is "one of Gettlemans guys" I've changed my tune. I hate what a mess he left this team in and you really have to question his judgment after this. But on a personal level you have to be happy for him that he got his guy back."

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21 minutes ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

There is zero point in freaking out about this. We could be less than 6 weeks away from having a new owner who will have no loyalty to Marty Hurney whatsoever. Yes, it sucks that he'll get to run free agency and the draft one last time, but there's a very good chance Tepper will fire Hurney on day one.

True. Let's just hope he doesn't screw things up. He has a free agency period and draft, to do so.

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1 minute ago, PhillyB said:

oh well. we just need him to not completely dick up this draft and he'll be out with the new ownership group. i just hope this doesn't end up being a throwaway year with a bunch of guys knowing they're lame ducks

Just please don't let him trade any future picks, especially not first rounders.

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2 minutes ago, The Natural said:

@Mr. Scot Does this change your perspective at all? 

 

 

"I have a source telling me the icing on the cake that lead to the fallout between Ron and Dave and eventually his "firing" was his unwavering loyalty to Mike Shula. Obviously tensions were already present due to the  botched handling of the Josh Norman situation and the subsequent draft. 

Rivera wanted him gone after the disappointing 2016 season. Of course publicly he wasn't going to say it but behind closed doors he'd "had enough". Dave on the other hand wasn't so keen on changing things up. Afterall, we were only a season removed from a SB appearance. Dave had the mindset that we were only another "player or two away" from seeing Shula's system really blossom into a juggernaut. 

Eventually tensions boiled over to the point Ron presented Richardson with a "It's me or him" ultimatum. Jerry called a meeting with Dave in a last ditch effort to smooth things over. Long story short Gettleman refused to budge on the issue and immediately resigned from his position. Jerry being Jerry wanted the story coming out to be that he had been fired (you know how his ego is) and now here we are. 

Shula would have been relieved of his duties at the same time Gettleman was but Norv had informed Ron that he wasn't quite ready to get back into it but would definitely be ready at the conclusion of the 2017 season. Make no mistake about it, the Norv hiring was a year in the making. 

Initially I was hesitant to believe it but after hearing the stories coming out of New York about how Shula is "one of Gettlemans guys" I've changed my tune. I hate what a mess he left this team in and you really have to question his judgment after this. But on a personal level you have to be happy for him that he got his guy back."

Exactly. And honestly, this is not obscure information...anyone with any connections to the Panthers as a company knows this, as well as what I was saying earlier about Hurney having acted as a sort of shadow GM or consigliere throughout his "out" period.

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So if there's any silver lining to this, here you go:

Everyone, including Marty Hurney, knows that new ownership is coming.  Clearly, a new owner owes MH precisely nothing.  This is basically his absolute last chance to be a GM.  He screws this up, he never works in that field again.

The bottom line is that he'll be forced to do his very best.  This isn't a GM position, this is a one year interview for one.  He doesn't have a lot of room to screw up the cap, because we don't have much to work with in the first place.

This next year will either be MH's greatest as a GM, or it will be his last.

Silver lining:   In either case, Panthers fans win.

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1 hour ago, RetiredCollegeCoach said:

Thank God they made the right call on this one instead of reaching for the shiny new object just because the media wants it.

Hurney is a HoF GM and #8 out of 90 modern GMs in drafting acumen. He is beloved throughout the organization, and it was tragic to see him nearly felled by false accusations.

Honestly, this forum needs a full purge of the dead-enders who are so locked into their Gettleboy fandom that they have begun rooting against the Panthers.

Send them all to a Giants forum; they'll be happier there.

Not sure if serious....

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1 minute ago, BrianS said:

So if there's any silver lining to this, here you go:

Everyone, including Marty Hurney, knows that new ownership is coming.  Clearly, a new owner owes MH precisely nothing.  This is basically his absolute last chance to be a GM.  He screws this up, he never works in that field again.

The bottom line is that he'll be forced to do his very best.  This isn't a GM position, this is a one year interview for one.  He doesn't have a lot of room to screw up the cap, because we don't have much to work with in the first place.

This next year will either be MH's greatest as a GM, or it will be his last.

Silver lining:   In either case, Panthers fans win.

lol MH will trade picks for crappy talent.. he cannot help himself.

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