Every GM Drafting rankings over thier tenure

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Can you comprehend if it wasn't for Hurney 2 franchise carrian  picks and 5 other pro bowlers he wouldn't had that..  Let's live in reality now how many Times did Cam, Luke, Josh, TD, and Olsen carry some sub par bargain  bend Gman players to Wins??

Why couldn't they carry Hurney's teams to wins?

If that core of guys is all you needed, why weren't they winning before Hurney was fired?

[chknwing]

I have no idea how to read this spreadsheet

[SCP]

[Davidson Deac II]

22 minutes ago, chknwing said:

I have no idea how to read this spreadsheet

So you too could become an NFL general manager. 

[WOW!!]

45 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Why couldn't they carry Hurney's teams to wins?

If that core of guys is all you needed, why weren't they winning before Hurney was fired?

Scot their you go with this dumbass point all the time.  At what point did Gman run pass routes for Cam held tackling Dummies for Luke and ran routes against Norman . I don't know any GM who gets credit for player development??  Why do you keep saying this poo?? He didn't make Cam a better QB.. Cam and Shula Did... I don't remember any time when Nipple shorts was running meetings or practice... So stop saying this poo... Players being better with experience had nothing to do with who the GM was...dammm

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Scot their you go with this dumbass point all the time.  At what point did Gman run pass routes for Cam held tackling Dummies for Luke and ran routes against Norman . I don't know any GM who gets credit for player development??  Why do you keep saying this poo?? He didn't make Cam a better QB.. Cam and Shula Did... I don't remember any time when Nipple shorts was running meetings or practice... So stop saying this poo... Players being better with experience had nothing to do with who the GM was...dammm

So...no answer...like usual.

Thanks again.

[WOW!!]

11 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

So...no answer...like usual.

Thanks again.

Are you really this big  of a condenseding dumbass??

The answer is there.. The players got better with experience, practice and play time.. Not because who the GM was.... Stop being a fuging idiot no GM in the history of the NFl het credit for player development.. Cam and Luke and the rest of the team were on their way to be better players no matter who the GM was... Rivera was on his way to being a better coach and handling situational football better no matter who the GM was...

Again it's so much easier to have a winning team when your predecessors hands you a MVP level QB coming into his prime a defensive player of the year candidate at LB and 6 or 7 other Pro bowl caliber players on the team already... So much easier when the team and coaches were building the experience needed to win and taking their rookie mistake lumps  before you got here...

[The Natural]

Well,  I guess since Mr. Scot "feels" this isn't accurate there's no merit to it. We all should  know better than to let facts and statistics get in the way of things. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, The Natural said:

Well,  I guess since Mr. Scot "feels" this isn't accurate there's no merit to it. We all should  know better than to let facts and statistics get in the way of things. 

If you actually do know anything about football, you'd know stats don't tell the story.

Stats would tell you that Cam Newton isn't as good as a lot of other quarterbacks. Shall we trade him?

 

[Moo Daeng]

17 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's kinda like saying "Don't worry. Gilligan is only gonna be the captain for three hours."

What could go wrong?

It's like when people said you could be a GM because you google google what coaches have worked with each other and say "big uglies"

[RetiredCollegeCoach]

6 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Stats would tell you that Cam Newton isn't as good as a lot of other quarterbacks. Shall we trade him?

 

Quoted without comment.

[Paa Langfart]

13 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Lemme try and explain this to you...as slowly and simply as I can.

I have no personal hate for Marty Hurney or Jerry Richardson.  I do have a fair amount of disgust for the way Jerry Richardson treated women, but by all accounts Marty Hurney is a nice guy.  And no, I don't believe the reports from his ex-wife.

The problem isn't that he's a bad guy.  The problem is that he's bad at his job.

He still has the job not because he's the best man for it, but because Jerry Richardson is an idiot who rewards loyalty over ability.  Hurney is one of several people Richardson rewarded with jobs they weren't qualified for.  Now while that might be a nice thing to do on a personal level, it's a horrible way to run a competitive business.

No other owner in the league was willing to give Marty Hurney a job as even a temporary consultant.  The only person who thinks he's smart enough to be in an NFL front office is the same guy who thought his former entertainment coordinator could run the entire operation.

Once a new owner comes in, I expect both will be fired.  Unfortunately, no one knows when that will be, and there's plenty of time for them to screw things up between now and then with moves whose consequences don't necessarily leave the building when they do.

What I'm talking about here is not a secret, or an isolated opinion.  Many people understand it, and with them as it is with me, it's not personal.  It's professional.

Now, on the flipside, you got embarrassed in some online arguments, so you're butthurt about it and following me around trying to get my attention and say something to hurt my feelings.  You don't have that kind of power, dude.  You're just random internet guy and I don't care what you think or how you feel.  You. however, seem to care a great deal about how I feel. That's why you waste time following me around and yapping like a dog.

Heck, take a look back at all the posts you've made over the last several days on this board.  You'll probably find about 99% of them are made to me.

That doesn't embarrass you at all? 

That doesn't make you stop and think, "hmmm, maybe I should let this go?"

If it doesn't...Oy.

My real life is not affected by Marty Hurney.  I have my own good things going on and my own struggles.  Those are the things that affect my emotions.  Football doesn't.  It may frustrate me that my chosen team does stupid things, but sports frustration isn't the same as real frustration.  Real frustration is what you get when something happens to you or the people in your life that you care about.  Sports frustration is nowhere near that level of importance.  I can come on here and talk about sports frustration then go do something fun with my wife or kids and the sports stuff is left here online. 

You don't seem to be able to do that.

I don't really care what you post because, as I said, what you do doesn't affect me.  On my end, even with the team going in a bad direction at the GM spot, there's still plenty for me to talk about (especially with a new owner on the horizon).  So I'll keep enjoying my time here without a single care about whether or not you're happy.  You, by contrast, look to continue being obsessed over how a random stranger on the internet feels to the point you're clearly letting it make you emotional.  That's why people are worried you're going to wind up stalking me in real life.

Do yourself, and the rest of us, a favor and let it go.

If you can't do that, then sorry but I can't help you.

Scot with his longest rant yet, telling us all how much he doesn't care.  LOL

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Do yourself, and the rest of us, a favor and let it go.

 

[X-Clown]

14 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

You listed 21 players...... that’s it? You can do exactly what you just did for every draft. That list by no means proves that 2011 was the most talented draft ever....... and a fourth of those players weren’t drafted......

Those weren't the only 21 players that were worth drafting, but you made it sound like that there was no talent that made it in the league after round 2. I can take the effort to list more contributors if you would like, but the point was that there were at least 13 teams that were able to find something better than McClain, Fua, Brandon Hogan, Pilares, Lawrence Wilson, Zack Williams, and Byron Bell.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

Scot with his longest rant yet, telling us all how much he doesn't care.  LOL

So basically you're still butthurt and I still own you...

Ah well, your choice.