Every GM Drafting rankings over thier tenure

[NanuqoftheNorth]

BTW, OP you should edit the title of this thread.

 

[Lords0fPain]

43 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

I use this obscure metric to judge my team's GM, it's called winning.

By that metric Hurney's last four seasons were a failure.

Furthermore,  having been GM for more than a decade, Marty managed a grand total of three winning seasons.

Calling Marty Hurney a mediocre GM would be an insult to mediocre people everywhere and throughout the entire course of human existence.

Exactly, 3 winning seasons in 10...30% success rating. Most other jobs would fired you for that kind of performance...

[Johnny Rockets]

28 minutes ago, Lords0fPain said:

Exactly, 3 winning seasons in 10...30% success rating. Most other jobs would fired you for that kind of performance...

In baseball that gets you into the Hall of Fame. 

[WOW!!]

51 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Yeah, like no other team has had to rebuild.  

A full decade as GM and only three winning seasons to show for it.

Marty actually got worse as time went by, not better.

When do you hold a GM accountable for their failure to field a winning team more than 1/3 of the time?

After a decade, maybe two or three decades? 

Too soon? 

Maybe Marty should just be given a lifetime guaranteed contract as GM? 

Would that even satisfy you?

How about in perpetuity?

Chances are Hurney's winning percentage would likely improve in the afterlife.  It certainly couldn't get much worse.

And they all went thru losing..

Same for the coach and coaching staff who gets rehired and players.  1 person wasn't at fault for that.  

Gman had 2 winning season in 4 and some of you think he is God.  

I agree so did the coaching and players .. All got worse..

They did he got fired... This is a new opportunity.. If it works or doesn't he will be fired again...

Nope but you should add context like everybody else (not in.this fanbase) give credence to 1 year losing Smitty early,  Jake falling off so quickly, Rivera making coaching mistakes his 1st 2 season with a rookie QB and horrible defense...

Like I said Hurney made mistakes so did Gman but neither are fully to blame for win loss record.. 

[NanuqoftheNorth]

5 minutes ago, Johnny Rockets said:

In baseball that gets you into the Hall of Fame. 

Hurney apparently missed his true calling.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

10 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Gman had 2 winning season in 4 and some of you think he is God. 

Can you not distinguish the difference between 30% and 50%?

At the end of the day, I would hope for something better than 50%, but I definitely would not favor a person that delivered a 30% rate of success over the course of a decade to one that delivered 50%.

I hope you use better judgement in your daily life.

[Paa Langfart]

8 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Gettleman was a legitimate GM. Hurney is not. Unfortunately, we have an idiot for an owner. Hence, the better GM was fired so that the moron in charge could bring his old buddy back.

LOl .  You sound exactly like a little old lady who got her feelings hurt.  I think I saw this episode on the  Andy Griffith show when Aunt Bee's pickles came in last place at the county fair.  

That is exactly what all your obsessive carping about JR and Hurney remind me of.  Aunt bee.  Going to start calling you Aunt bee.  LOL

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Paa Langfart said:

LOl .  You sound exactly like a little old lady who got her feelings hurt.  I think I saw this episode on the  Andy Griffith show when Aunt Bee's pickles came in last place at the county fair.  

That is exactly what all your obsessive carping about JR and Hurney remind me of.  Aunt bee.  Going to start calling you Aunt bee.  LOL

As long as you keep following me around like a spurned ex, whatever.

[Paa Langfart]

 

59 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

As long as you keep following me around like a spurned ex, whatever.

Lol - following you around ?  Dude youre posting your hate of JR and Hurney in damn near every thread on here.  I don't have to follow you around I just pull up a topic and there you are bitching and whining like a spoilt child.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Paa Langfart said:

Lol - following you around ?  Dude youre posting your hate of JR and Hurney in damn near every thread on here.  I don't have to follow you around I just pull up a topic and there you are bitching and whining like a spoilt child.

Not smart enough to see that you're being owned...even when others besides me have pointed it out to you.

Oy...

[Paa Langfart]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not smart enough to see that you're being owned...even when others besides me have pointed it out to you.

Oy...

Whatever you say Aunt Bee, LOL

[Mr. Scot]

21 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

Whatever you say Aunt Bee, LOL

Lemme try and explain this to you...as slowly and simply as I can.

I have no personal hate for Marty Hurney or Jerry Richardson.  I do have a fair amount of disgust for the way Jerry Richardson treated women, but by all accounts Marty Hurney is a nice guy.  And no, I don't believe the reports from his ex-wife.

The problem isn't that he's a bad guy.  The problem is that he's bad at his job.

He still has the job not because he's the best man for it, but because Jerry Richardson is an idiot who rewards loyalty over ability.  Hurney is one of several people Richardson rewarded with jobs they weren't qualified for.  Now while that might be a nice thing to do on a personal level, it's a horrible way to run a competitive business.

No other owner in the league was willing to give Marty Hurney a job as even a temporary consultant.  The only person who thinks he's smart enough to be in an NFL front office is the same guy who thought his former entertainment coordinator could run the entire operation.

Once a new owner comes in, I expect both will be fired.  Unfortunately, no one knows when that will be, and there's plenty of time for them to screw things up between now and then with moves whose consequences don't necessarily leave the building when they do.

What I'm talking about here is not a secret, or an isolated opinion.  Many people understand it, and with them as it is with me, it's not personal.  It's professional.

Now, on the flipside, you got embarrassed in some online arguments, so you're butthurt about it and following me around trying to get my attention and say something to hurt my feelings.  You don't have that kind of power, dude.  You're just random internet guy and I don't care what you think or how you feel.  You. however, seem to care a great deal about how I feel. That's why you waste time following me around and yapping like a dog.

Heck, take a look back at all the posts you've made over the last several days on this board.  You'll probably find about 99% of them are made to me.

That doesn't embarrass you at all? 

That doesn't make you stop and think, "hmmm, maybe I should let this go?"

If it doesn't...Oy.

My real life is not affected by Marty Hurney.  I have my own good things going on and my own struggles.  Those are the things that affect my emotions.  Football doesn't.  It may frustrate me that my chosen team does stupid things, but sports frustration isn't the same as real frustration.  Real frustration is what you get when something happens to you or the people in your life that you care about.  Sports frustration is nowhere near that level of importance.  I can come on here and talk about sports frustration then go do something fun with my wife or kids and the sports stuff is left here online. 

You don't seem to be able to do that.

I don't really care what you post because, as I said, what you do doesn't affect me.  On my end, even with the team going in a bad direction at the GM spot, there's still plenty for me to talk about (especially with a new owner on the horizon).  So I'll keep enjoying my time here without a single care about whether or not you're happy.  You, by contrast, look to continue being obsessed over how a random stranger on the internet feels to the point you're clearly letting it make you emotional.  That's why people are worried you're going to wind up stalking me in real life.

Do yourself, and the rest of us, a favor and let it go.

If you can't do that, then sorry but I can't help you.

[Ace_Aladdin]

1 hour ago, Paa Langfart said:

 

Lol - following you around ?  Dude youre posting your hate of JR and Hurney in damn near every thread on here.  I don't have to follow you around I just pull up a topic and there you are bitching and whining like a spoilt child.

 

Dude started 30 threads about new ownership  the hate is real in this one.

Just look at his post history via activity, its all negative stuff about Ron , GM & owner...... its sort of like he is obbsessed with it like I am with 2 TE set.

 

41 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Lemme try and explain this to you...as slowly and simply as I can.

I have no personal hate for Marty Hurney or Jerry Richardson.  I do have a fair amount of disgust for the way Jerry Richardson treated women, but by all accounts Marty Hurney is a nice guy.  And no, I don't believe the reports from his ex-wife.

The problem isn't that he's a bad guy.  The problem is that he's bad at his job.

He still has the job not because he's the best man for it, but because Jerry Richardson is an idiot who rewards loyalty over ability.  Hurney is one of several people Richardson rewarded with jobs they weren't qualified for.  Now while that might be a nice thing to do on a personal level, it's a horrible way to run a competitive business.

No other owner in the league was willing to give Marty Hurney a job as even a temporary consultant.  The only person who thinks he's smart enough to be in an NFL front office is the same guy who thought his former entertainment coordinator could run the entire operation.

Once a new owner comes in, I expect both will be fired.  Unfortunately, no one knows when that will be, and there's plenty of time for them to screw things up between now and then with moves whose consequences don't necessarily leave the building when they do.

What I'm talking about here is not a secret, or an isolated opinion.  Many people understand it, and with them as it is with me, it's not personal.  It's professional.

Now, on the flipside, you got embarrassed in some online arguments, so you're butthurt about it and following me around trying to get my attention and say something to hurt my feelings.  You don't have that kind of power, dude.  You're just random internet guy and I don't care what you think or how you feel.  You. however, seem to care a great deal about how I feel. That's why you waste time following me around and yapping like a dog.

Heck, take a look back at all the posts you've made over the last several days on this board.  You'll probably find about 99% of them are made to me.

That doesn't embarrass you at all? 

That doesn't make you stop and think, "hmmm, maybe I should let this go?"

If it doesn't...Oy.

My real life is not affected by Marty Hurney.  I have my own good things going on and my own struggles.  Those are the things that affect my emotions.  Football doesn't.  It may frustrate me that my chosen team does stupid things, but sports frustration isn't the same as real frustration.  Real frustration is what you get when something happens to you or the people in your life that you care about.  Sports frustration is nowhere near that level of importance.  I can come on here and talk about sports frustration then go do something fun with my wife or kids and the sports stuff is left here online. 

You don't seem to be able to do that.

I don't really care what you post because, as I said, what you do doesn't affect me.  On my end, even with the team going in a bad direction at the GM spot, there's still plenty for me to talk about (especially with a new owner on the horizon).  So I'll keep enjoying my time here without a single care about whether or not you're happy.  You, by contrast, look to continue being obsessed over how a random stranger on the internet feels to the point you're clearly letting it make you emotional.  That's why people are worried you're going to wind up stalking me in real life.

Do yourself, and the rest of us, a favor and let it go.

If you can't do that, then sorry but I can't help you.

 

[WOW!!]

2 hours ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Can you not distinguish the difference between 30% and 50%?

At the end of the day, I would hope for something better than 50%, but I definitely would not favor a person that delivered a 30% rate of success over the course of a decade to one that delivered 50%.

I hope you use better judgement in your daily life.

Can you comprehend if it wasn't for Hurney 2 franchise carrian  picks and 5 other pro bowlers he wouldn't had that..  Let's live in reality now how many Times did Cam, Luke, Josh, TD, and Olsen carry some sub par bargain  bend Gman players to Wins?? 13 and 3 season was built on a defense that lead the league in sacks (Thanks CJ, Hardy and Addison) and LB's Luke, and TD.  Hurney picks . And Cam with a comparable Oline featuring Gross, Kali and Piggy (all Hurney guys).. At some point some of you will have to admit Gman fell into a plush situation.