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Every GM Drafting rankings over thier tenure


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8 minutes ago, Car123 said:

People seem to ignore 2002-2008. Hurney wasn’t hired in 2009.

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It's because 07 and 08 were his best drafts and then he went to poo there after. He got a few solid dudes in those two drafts with Beason, Kalil, Johnson, Stewart, Godfrey, Barndidge, and Schwartz. However this is also when the NFL really started changing to a more Pass happy league and he failed to adjust to that. The drafts after that were abysmal with minimum depth and contributions throughout:

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In that 4 year span, his only decent selections were Captain, Lafell, Hardy, Cam, Luke, and Norman. No one else was even a contributor in that 4 years stretch, and one of those years he had the first pick of the draw in every single round. So the 2 years previous he found 7 solid guys, then 4 years thereafter he found 6. 

The roster went bare with depth and contributors in that time frame and we were stuck with scrubs and guys who shouldn't even be in the league. And through it all he re-signed aging vets, injured players, and complete scrubs to lucrative long term deals. 

So at the beginning it was decent, then the game changed and he didn't which is why he deserved to be fired in the first place. 

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Jesus how many shitty trolls/alts are allowed to roam freely on this board 

ol’ Sanjay, Retiredcollegecoach, etc. the hell is happening? 

 

Hurney’s downfall was never so much picking players but trades and salary cap, he picked about even in terms of good/bad players but his trades and contracts fuged this team over for a long time.

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6 minutes ago, Cracka McNasty said:

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It's because 07 and 08 were his best drafts and then he went to poo there after. He got a few solid dudes in those two drafts with Beason, Kalil, Johnson, Stewart, Godfrey, Barndidge, and Schwartz. However this is also when the NFL really started changing to a more Pass happy league and he failed to adjust to that. The drafts after that were abysmal with minimum depth and contributions throughout:

image.thumb.png.ae0dffbf64e106e455528c8e29b93162.png

In that 4 year span, his only decent selections were Captain, Lafell, Hardy, Cam, Luke, and Norman. No one else was even a contributor in that 4 years stretch, and one of those years he had the first pick of the draw in every single round. So the 2 years previous he found 7 solid guys, then 4 years thereafter he found 6. 

The roster went bare with depth and contributors in that time frame and we were stuck with scrubs and guys who shouldn't even be in the league. And through it all he re-signed aging vets, injured players, and complete scrubs to lucrative long term deals. 

So at the beginning it was decent, then the game changed and he didn't which is why he deserved to be fired in the first place. 

Godfrey was never good, and the big contract they gave him was a disaster.

I couldn't rightly call Brandon LaFell a good pick either. And Barnidge was heavily overrated by fans here.

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27 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Godfrey was never good, and the big contract they gave him was a disaster.

I couldn't rightly call Brandon LaFell a good pick either. And Barnidge was heavily overrated by fans here.

In what universe would Brandon LaFell not be considered a good pick? 

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6 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Fwiw, if one believes that Gettleman got us to the SB with players Hurney picked, then the same holds true for our SB when Hurney was in charge.  Most of the players on the team were selected by Seifert or earlier regimes.

Except Hurney had a big role in personnel decisions before he became the GM and Hurney’s 2003 FA pickups were the catalyst for our Super Bowl run

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 If Hurney had been ranked at the bottom of the barrel all his critics would be touting this as proof of his incompetence and defending it. Because he wasn't, now all the critics are arguing with the stat methods or conclusions saying they are wrong and incorrect. Nothing like having an agenda and only seeing what justifies your already made up opinion. 

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6 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Fwiw, if one believes that Gettleman got us to the SB with players Hurney picked, then the same holds true for our SB when Hurney was in charge.  Most of the players on the team were selected by Seifert or earlier regimes.

IDC...looking to go back to the SB with whoever is GM...Turner hire overcomes a Hurney hire...

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Just now, panthers55 said:

 If Hurney had been ranked at the bottom of the barrel all his critics would be touting this as proof of his incompetence and defending it. Because he wasn't, now all the critics are arguing with the stat methods or conclusions saying they are wrong and incorrect. Nothing like having an agenda and only seeing what justifies your already made up opinion. 

I don't care whether PFF or PFF style analysis agrees with me or not. I find it worthless either way.

This is no different, and someone else already pointed out one of the flaws in the methodology (specifically, that GMs who built losing teams draft higher, inflating the supposed value).

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7 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

IDC...looking to go back to the SB with whoever is GM...Turner hire overcomes a Hurney hire...

Perhaps, we will see.  The question irt Hurney is not necessarily how good we will be this year, but how good we will be in 5 years.  We were hit and miss in Hurney's first four years.  After that, we were consistently average or below average except for one season. 

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3 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Perhaps, we will see.  The question irt Hurney is not necessarily how good we will be this year, but how good we will be in 5 years.  We were hit and miss in Hurney's first four years.  After that, we were consistently average or below average except for one season. 

We are in 3 yr window...after that we are looking at pretty much a total rebuild and brand new team...

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13 minutes ago, Car123 said:

Except Hurney had a big role in personnel decisions before he became the GM and Hurney’s 2003 FA pickups were the catalyst for our Super Bowl run

Maybe he did,  although Seifert had the final say.  And Gettleman's picks and free agent pickups were a catalyst for our 2015 sb run.  Tolbert, Ginn, Tillman, Harper, etc...  

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