Panthers continue to hold out for Hurney

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, AceBoogie said:

All made up bullshit to further push your agenda

Just as solid a rebuttal as I always know to expect from you 

[TheRed]

So basically this is 15 pages of nothing. Unless you consider bizarre jokes about the inside of another man's asshole actual Panthers news.

[Moo Daeng]

Wow....shocking revelations there Mister S. Thats some Deep Throat level secrets. We've not heard any of that! Lol

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, TheRed said:

So basically this is 15 pages of nothing. Unless you consider bizarre jokes about the inside of another man's asshole actual Panthers news.

Oh, I'm sure the Panthers are waiting to name someone else GM just to make it harder on them.

Gotta make the job exciting, right?

If Marty Hurney isn't ultimately named GM, I'll be shocked. I'll be pleased, but I'll also be shocked. Yes, it could happen, and I hope it does. I'd be very happy to be wrong.

But the idea that the team would be waiting on naming a GM for any other reason is pretty farfetched.

[Paa Langfart]

10 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

That's not guaranteed to happen.

A new owner could fire Ron Rivera, dump Cam Newton, trade Christian McCaffrey and whatever else, but there's no reason to assume that he will.

If a new GM is hired and does a good job, then in all likelihood, he'd keep his job. Same deal as with Rivera.

Keeping Marty Hurney just because a new owner might fire somebody else is silly logic.

The new owner is not going to keep Hurney after this season.  You pretending someone in that position would be that dense is laughable.  In your world of what ifs, what if Tina and the gang hire Dawson and come May the new owner turns around and fires him and hires Hurney instead?  It could happen, right ?

[Moo Daeng]

5 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

The new owner is not going to keep Hurney after this season.  You pretending someone in that position would be that dense is laughable.  In your world of what ifs, what if Tina and the gang hire Dawson and come May the new owner turns around and fires him and hires Hurney instead?  It could happen, right ?

Crazier things have happened.

[Towelboy]

2 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

All made up bullshit to further push your agenda

not made up. i'm the one who gave him the information and the information came directly from the scouting department.

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, Towelboy said:

not made up. i'm the one who gave him the information and the information came directly from the scouting department.

Yes, Towelboy is where I got the info, and he knows more directly than I do about what's going on.

Hope you didn't feel like you had to reveal yourself to defend me, dude.

[JARROD]

If the ship has sailed then send a ship to ship and blow that bitch up! 

In other news,.... the ship is still in port,.. and it looks like a tug boat.

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yes, Towelboy is where I got the info, and he knows more directly than I do about what's going on.

Hope you didn't feel like you had to reveal yourself to defend me, dude.

Some folks are so mediocre that to them, knowing someone who knows someone connected is unimaginable.

I taught Brandon Beane in high school. (South Stanly High).  I know a lot of folks who knew Brandon, and they would ask him questions.  Brandon would not reveal inappropriate info, but he would clarify misconceptions.  I shared a few ideas here that came from him (indirectly--we spoke once since the 1990s, when he was a HS student--getting our cars inspected).  It was funny to see how many of these numb nuts would call me out. 

Here is the great Marty Hurney since returning:

• Keeping 2 kickers, ultimately losing 2 players as a result (STOOPID)
• Trading away our #1 WR while on a playoff run with 2 WRs on IR (forget the trade on paper--the timing was idiotic and reckless)
• Signing RR to an extension (I believe it was politically motivated; knowing RR would campaign for him)

I can support much of this if you simply reflect back on the one draft Marty engineered when John Fox was a lame duck coach. Fox did not communicate with Marty about the draft before or during.

Here is your football mind--

• Jimmy Clausen:  I did KNOW that we tried to trade up with the Rams at #33, offering our second, the first rounder next year, and a sixth rounder.  The Rams refused at some point, then Marty added the sixth before getting pulled back.  KC and Minnesota--both desperate for QBs--passed on MH  in the first AND second rounds.  They knew.  Bust
• Brandon Lafell:  His best pick, an average player at best. Small hands, average at best speed.
• Armanti Edwards:  Brandon told me (at the service station) that Marty was obsessed with the idea that Colts wanted Armanti Edwards, so he coughed up our second rounder (which turned out to be the #33 pick) and New England was happy to prey on our stupid GM. Bust
• Eric Norwood:  Never a fit in a 4-3.  Nice player in college.  Bust.

I could have done better than this with a 12 pack, blindfold, and dartboard.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

Some folks are so mediocre that to them, knowing someone who knows someone connected is unimaginable.

I taught Brandon Beane in high school. (South Stanly High).  I know a lot of folks who knew Brandon, and they would ask him questions.  Brandon would not reveal inappropriate info, but he would clarify misconceptions.  I shared a few ideas here that came from him (indirectly--we spoke once since the 1990s, when he was a HS student--getting our cars inspected).  It was funny to see how many of these numb nuts would call me out. 

Here is the great Marty Hurney since returning:

• Keeping 2 kickers, ultimately losing 2 players as a result (STOOPID)
• Trading away our #1 WR while on a playoff run with 2 WRs on IR (forget the trade on paper--the timing was idiotic and reckless)
• Signing RR to an extension (I believe it was politically motivated; knowing RR would campaign for him)

I can support much of this if you simply reflect back on the one draft Marty engineered when John Fox was a lame duck coach. Fox did not communicate with Marty about the draft before or during.

Here is your football mind--

• Jimmy Clausen:  I did KNOW that we tried to trade up with the Rams at #33, offering our second, the first rounder next year, and a sixth rounder.  The Rams refused.  KC and Minnesota--both desperate for QBs--passed on MH  in the first AND second rounds.  They knew.  Bust
• Brandon Lafell:  His best pick, an average player at best. Small hands, average at best speed.
• Armanti Edwards:  Brandon told me (at the service station) that Marty was obsessed with the idea that Colts wanted Armanti Edwards, so he coughed up our second rounder (which turned out to be the #33 pick) and New England was happy to prey on our stupid GM. Bust
• Eric Norwood:  Never a fit in a 3-4.  Nice player in college.  Bust.

I could have done better than this with a 12 pack, blindfold, and dartboard.

I'm guessing you meant "passed on JC".

A second, a sixth and next year's first...yikes!

Teams frequently put out misinformation to throw off other teams. I get the definite impression that Hurney fell for a lot of it.

The fact that teams were still calling us trying to get future first-round picks even after Hurney was gone pretty much tells me that they had identified us as suckers.

And people want this guy back or want to say that he was really a good GM... yeesh.

[raleigh-panther]

It is really time to move on from Hurney

He should never have been brought back in the first place.

 

 Again, the Panthers had a sportscaster who became a GM, a GM, once fired that no other team wanted

JR is out. 

For once the NFL needs to be helpful and tell JR, no.  

If you want to give him a bonus for helping you out do it, but he needs to move on just as you do

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

It is really time to move on from Hurney

He should never have been brought back in the first place.

 

 Again, the Panthers had a sportscaster who became a GM, a GM, once fired that no other team wanted

JR is out. 

For once the NFL needs to be helpful and tell JR, no.  

If you want to give him a bonus for helping you out do it, but he needs to move on just as you do

I think they're trying to, though it's not so much to help out Richardson is it is the Panthers, and the league themselves.

Richardson, of course, is fighting to keep Hurney. Here's hoping the NFL wins this particular tug of war.

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, HornetsSting said:

So let me get this straight, we interview three superior, vastly qualified black candidates, but end up hiring the white guy with assault accusations and has done this job before, did such a terrible job before that he was fired mid season?!

And yet people say white privelage doesn't exist. I WISH Cam Newton would have kneeled every single game last season during the anthem just to DOUBLE DARE JR to show his true racist colors by benching the MVP of the team.

JR is truly scum of the earth.

I'd have to agree that the optic here makes the team look really bad. And it's worth remembering that Jerry Richardson is being investigated not just for sexual harassment, but for racist language as well.

That said, I'm not convinced that its about race when it comes to Hurney.

It's not so much that Jerry Richardson doesn't want a black man in place of Marty Hurney. It's that he doesn't want anybody in place of Marty Hurney.

When they called in three African-American candidates, the team was trying to make it look like they were more than complying with the Rooney Rule. In the process, they actually made themselves look worse. But sadly, that's par for the course with the Panthers.