Giants hire Mike Shula as OC

[Snake]

22 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Word from the team reports is that he'll consult on the game plan, but Shurmur will still have control.

None of this is empty speculation. It's all been reported, and by more than one source.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/sports/football/giants/pat-shurmur-mike-shula-call-plays-giants-article-1.3823470

“He’ll assume all the roles that any offensive coordinator would have,” Shurmur said of Shula, “and he’d obviously be in position to call it, if need be.”

Just saying... 

[2jakefansinva]

1 hour ago, The Natural said:

I have a source telling me the icing on the cake that lead to the fallout between Ron and Dave and eventually his "firing" was his unwavering loyalty to Mike Shula. Obviously tensions were already present due to the  botched handling of the Josh Norman situation and the subsequent draft. 

Rivera wanted him gone after the disappointing 2016 season. Of course publicly he wasn't going to say it but behind closed doors he'd "had enough". Dave on the other hand wasn't so keen on changing things up. Afterall, we were only a season removed from a SB appearance. Dave had the mindset that we were only another "player or two away" from seeing Shula's system really blossom into a juggernaut. 

Eventually tensions boiled over to the point Ron presented Richardson with a "It's me or him" ultimatum. Jerry called a meeting with Dave in a last ditch effort to smooth things over. Long story short Gettleman refused to budge on the issue and immediately resigned from his position. Jerry being Jerry wanted the story coming out to be that he had been fired (you know how his ego is) and now here we are. 

Shula would have been relieved of his duties at the same time Gettleman was but Norv had informed Ron that he wasn't quite ready to get back into it but would definitely be ready at the conclusion of the 2017 season. Make no mistake about it, the Norv hiring was a year in the making. 

Initially I was hesitant to believe it but after hearing the stories coming out of New York about how Shula is "one of Gettlemans guys" I've changed my tune. I hate what a mess he left this team in and you really have to question his judgment after this. But on a personal level you have to be happy for him that he got his guy back. 

 

guess this blows up the stubborn Ron thingy round here........

[Salisburysean98]

I have a source that tells me Shula is reptilian. 

[Mr. Scot]

25 minutes ago, Snake said:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/sports/football/giants/pat-shurmur-mike-shula-call-plays-giants-article-1.3823470

“He’ll assume all the roles that any offensive coordinator would have,” Shurmur said of Shula, “and he’d obviously be in position to call it, if need be.”

Just saying... 

I'm just saying you either didn't read the very next paragraph or ignored it.

 

Shula call plays? Well, no, that’s not the plan. Shurmur said on Jan. 26, the day he was officially introduced as head coach, “I do plan to call the plays, yes.” But he did leave open the possibility that Shula could end up with the play sheet on occasion.

It’s simply a softer tone to a conversation that can quickly get out of control when seasons go south. Just ask McAdoo.

[bandu]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm just saying you either didn't read the very next paragraph or ignored it.

 

 

 

I'm just saying it doesn't sound like Shurmur knows from one minute to the next if he's coming or going

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, bandu said:

I'm just saying it doesn't sound like Shurmur knows from one minute to the next if he's coming or going

I think he's probably trying really hard not to stir anything up because McAdoo left a real s--t show there. Plus he's dealing with New York media.

I have no idea how good Shurmur is going to be as a head coach, but I can get where he'd have to tread lightly.

[Snake]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm just saying you either didn't read the very next paragraph or ignored it.

 

 

 

It's saying he may pass playcalling duties and he will be a full OC otherwise not a QB coach. 

[Mr. Scot]

21 minutes ago, Snake said:

It's saying he may pass playcalling duties and he will be a full OC otherwise not a QB coach. 

He basically said he might allow him to call plays once in a while, and the people directly covering him say that's not gonna happen.

You're pushing an idea that that not only has no supporting evidence, but people in the know saying the exact opposite.

Sorry, dude.  There's just nothing to it.

[Manther]

5 hours ago, Snake said:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.nydailynews.com/amp/sports/football/giants/pat-shurmur-mike-shula-call-plays-giants-article-1.3823470

“He’ll assume all the roles that any offensive coordinator would have,” Shurmur said of Shula, “and he’d obviously be in position to call it, if need be.”

Just saying... 

You are so funny....the actual title of the article: "Pat Shurmur retains some assistant coaches,leaves possibility that Mike Shula could call some plays for Giants "

Did you even read it?  It talks about the very thing we all are saying here...Shumur is going to do the play calling...Shula, could call some. I'm sorry, you are too funny.

Even the article you provide for us makes our case.  Sorry buddy, Shumur will be running the offense.

 

[Johnny Rockets]

I'm not sure why any of the details of what he will and won't do matter so much. Some of you are obsessed with it and it's odd. He was let go here and landed and job elsewhere. Good for him. It's irrelevant to the Panthers now.

[ras977]

35 minutes ago, Johnny Rockets said:

I'm not sure why any of the details of what he will and won't do matter so much. Some of you are obsessed with it and it's odd. He was let go here and landed and job elsewhere. Good for him. It's irrelevant to the Panthers now.

Thank you --let Gettleman go--far away,

[Johnny Rockets]

1 hour ago, ras977 said:

Thank you --let Gettleman go--far away,

Gettleman, Shula, Hurney....it doesn't matter. Once the last one is gone, the Huddle obsession will turn to Rivera and then reset to the next target. 

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, Johnny Rockets said:

Gettleman, Shula, Hurney....it doesn't matter. Once the last one is gone, the Huddle obsession will turn to Rivera and then reset to the next target. 

I'm not so sure of that.

A lot of the incompetence stemmed from Jerry Richardson. With him gone, there's a chance a lot of things can change.

Now, that's not to say that people won't have their targets or their crazy notions, but I do believe that is far as the franchise itself, we have a really good shot at taking a big step.

[Johnny Rockets]

17 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm not so sure of that.

A lot of the incompetence stemmed from Jerry Richardson. With him gone, there's a chance a lot of things can change.

Now, that's not to say that people won't have their targets or their crazy notions, but I do believe that is far as the franchise itself, we have a really good shot at taking a big step.

The targets will always be there and it will always be a discussion. It's a message board. Not gonna lie Mr Scott, you and I go way back but you have dived into the deep end recently. I think things will turn out just fine regardless of what happens with Hurney at this point.