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Giants hire Mike Shula as OC


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14 hours ago, tondi said:

Shula got this job because nobody else worth a damn would sign up to be an offense coordinator with no play calling abilities. 

Ummmm...Frank Reich and Matt Nagy turned that exact gig into head coaching jobs this year. 

(Although Nagy did call a few games after the Chiefs fell apart mid year)

 

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1 hour ago, Snake said:

People want to down play it but Shula is a OC and more than likely will have almost full control over the offense. 

There's actually not a single source that says anything of the kind.

Every beat writer, reporter or analyst that's commented on it has confirmed that Shula will not call plays. 

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2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

There's actually not a single source that says anything of the kind.

Every beat writer, reporter or analyst that's commented on it has confirmed that Shula will not call plays. 

He might not call the plays but will come up with the game plan. Anything is speculation until the preseason starts. Shula honestly doesn't make sense with Shumar simply because they run different systems but we will see. 

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52 minutes ago, Manther said:

This is just a fan forum.  I'm not buying it.

Shula could have gotten a QB coach job with any team. He's getting more control with the giants. If it's totally true and he's just a QB coach it means the Giants are taking a QB in the draft and shipping Manning off. 

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6 minutes ago, Snake said:

He might not call the plays but will come up with the game plan. Anything is speculation until the preseason starts. Shula honestly doesn't make sense with Shumar simply because they run different systems but we will see. 

Word from the team reports is that he'll consult on the game plan, but Shurmur will still have control.

None of this is empty speculation. It's all been reported, and by more than one source.

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I have a source telling me the icing on the cake that lead to the fallout between Ron and Dave and eventually his "firing" was his unwavering loyalty to Mike Shula. Obviously tensions were already present due to the  botched handling of the Josh Norman situation and the subsequent draft. 

Rivera wanted him gone after the disappointing 2016 season. Of course publicly he wasn't going to say it but behind closed doors he'd "had enough". Dave on the other hand wasn't so keen on changing things up. Afterall, we were only a season removed from a SB appearance. Dave had the mindset that we were only another "player or two away" from seeing Shula's system really blossom into a juggernaut. 

Eventually tensions boiled over to the point Ron presented Richardson with a "It's me or him" ultimatum. Jerry called a meeting with Dave in a last ditch effort to smooth things over. Long story short Gettleman refused to budge on the issue and immediately resigned from his position. Jerry being Jerry wanted the story coming out to be that he had been fired (you know how his ego is) and now here we are. 

Shula would have been relieved of his duties at the same time Gettleman was but Norv had informed Ron that he wasn't quite ready to get back into it but would definitely be ready at the conclusion of the 2017 season. Make no mistake about it, the Norv hiring was a year in the making. 

Initially I was hesitant to believe it but after hearing the stories coming out of New York about how Shula is "one of Gettlemans guys" I've changed my tune. I hate what a mess he left this team in and you really have to question his judgment after this. But on a personal level you have to be happy for him that he got his guy back. 

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