Jason La Canfora reporting new GM hire

[MHS831]

The fact that Marty has not made a statement or even resigned for betterment of the team under these conditions--remember, the optics, not legalities, are very important.  There are a lot of women who support the Panthers, but to HIRE someone whose ex-wife tried to press charges while the owner was being investigated by the NFL is stupid on every level.  Aside from the fact that he rode some pretty good draft picks by his predecessor to some success in 2003 (Smith, Jenkins, Moose, I think), Marty's involvement slowly eroded the team until 2010, when he broke the bank resigning the core of a 2-14 team.

[Growl]

Y'all have been ridiculous throughout this entire process 

 

If Richardson was determined to keep Hurney around, he'd place him in a job that he has a chance of sticking around in under new ownership.

[MHS831]

People forget the cap strapped first few years of Gettlemen to such a degree that they call DG "Dollar General.", but MH  caused most of it.

[MHS831]

3 minutes ago, Growl said:

Y'all have been ridiculous throughout this entire process 

 

If Richardson was determined to keep Hurney around, he'd place him in a job that he has a chance of sticking around in under new ownership.

Unless he is banking on new ownership not being as knowledgeable about the NFL to determine who would be good and who would not.    I think we are afraid of what we have to guess about--nobody knows the new ownership will do.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Growl said:

Y'all have been ridiculous throughout this entire process 

If Richardson was determined to keep Hurney around, he'd place him in a job that he has a chance of sticking around in under new ownership.

Keep in mind we're talking about the guy who firmly believes that Marty Hurney is a competent GM.

Richardson's view of reality is a tad...skewed.

That, plus executive salaries tend to be guaranteed, so even if the next owner did fire Hurney, Richardson would have at least assured that his most loyal employee got one final big paycheck.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Unless he is banking on new ownership not being as knowledgeable about the NFL to determine who would be good and who would not.    I think we are afraid of what we have to guess about--nobody knows the new ownership will do.

Or he planned on asking potential owners whether they'd be willing to keep Hurney as part of the screening process.

[CPF4LIFE]

13 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

The fact that Marty has not made a statement or even resigned for betterment of the team under these conditions--remember, the optics, not legalities, are very important.  There are a lot of women who support the Panthers, but to HIRE someone whose ex-wife tried to press charges while the owner was being investigated by the NFL is stupid on every level.  Aside from the fact that he rode some pretty good draft picks by his predecessor to some success in 2003 (Smith, Jenkins, Moose, I think), Marty's involvement slowly eroded the team until 2010, when he broke the bank resigning the core of a 2-14 team.

Once again,  JR had a lot to do with that. He didnt like the rumors that he was cheap during the CBA issue. If Everybody's gonna bail out gettleman for making bad decisions at least keep it consistent. Gettleman has never had to build a team from the ground up, if hurney has rode good drafts like you said then gettlemam definitely rode his. 

[Harbingers]

6 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Once again,  JR had a lot to do with that. He didnt like the rumors that he was cheap during the CBA issue. If Everybody's gonna bail out gettleman for making bad decisions at least keep it consistent. Gettleman has never had to build a team from the ground up, if hurney has rode good drafts like you said then gettlemam definitely rode his. 

Facepalm.

[Paa Langfart]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

About as many as Marty had in his last eight years on the job.

I dare you to take a look at each guys best 5 years and compare winning percentages.

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

I dare you to take a look at each guys best 5 years and compare winning percentages.

Ah yes, the old "find a way to skew the stats in your favor" tactic.

Sorry, not valid.

The reality is that Marty Hurney hasn't built a team that could win a playoff game since 2005, and that's back when he still had a strong core that was left to him by his predecessor.

He was available for any team in the league to hire for anything from GM to a lesser rule for four years. Nobody even gave him a call.  Not a single one of our other candidates has been out of a job for as much as a year. They've stayed in high demand for their entire careers.

Basically, if we didn't have an idiot owner, Marty Hurney wouldn't even be in consideration.

[Paa Langfart]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Ah yes, the old "find a way to skew the stats in your favor" tactic.

Sorry, not valid

That isn't skewing anything  - a fact is a fact - Hurney had more success as a gm than any of the other candidates, but that doesn't matter to you and so many other bandwagon gotta have change at any cost gangers.  The best thing the Panthers could do right now is convince the NFL to let our interim GM get back to his desk on Monday morning and continue through this off season and up coming season until new ownership has a chance to come in and assess what they want to do long term and the real probability of hiring a permanent GM in January of 2019.  It makes no sense to hire a gm now when new ownership may want him gone asap.  That just adds to the instability of the situation the team is in.

[Paa Langfart]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Sorry, not valid.

By the way that's a hell of an argument you made there.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Paa Langfart said:

That isn't skewing anything  - a fact is a fact - Hurney had more success as a gm than any of the other candidates, but that doesn't matter to you and so many other bandwagon gotta have change at any cost gangers.  The best thing the Panthers could do right now is convince the NFL to let our interim GM get back to his desk on Monday morning and continue through this off season and up coming season until new ownership has a chance to come in and assess what they want to do long term and the real probability of hiring a permanent GM in January of 2019.  It makes no sense to hire a gm now when new ownership may want him gone asap.  That just adds to the instability of the situation the team is in.

You do remember that stability and continuity are why we stuck with Mike Shula, right?

Hurney only had three winning seasons out of eleven, and two of those came while he was still working with the core left to him by his predecessor. That's a 25% success rate, and it's terrible.

Will say it again. I will always choose someone who might be good at a job over someone that I already know is bad.

[Paa Langfart]

59 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You do remember that stability and continuity are why we stuck with Mike Shula, right?

So you want us to follow the example of the Cleveland Browns of change ?