The case to release Ryan Kalil, JStew, and CJ

[GoobyPls]

Stewart should of been cut 2 seasons ago, he’s our new Tolbert

 

This team is not interested in improving if Stewart is still here next season

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, GoobyPls said:

Stewart should of been cut 2 seasons ago, he’s our new Tolbert

 

This team is not interested in improving if Stewart is still here next season

Yep, nothing against J Stew, but he's shot. Same for CJ.

[MHS831]

Think of a RB in terms of an 8-year career.  Most do little after that.  After year 5, they start losing productivity by about 10% or more per year.   He will average in the low 3s per carry this season if he is not cut.

Hell no.

Over the past 2 seasons, Stew ran for a combined 1500 yards and made approximately $16m.  That comes to $10,666 per yard. 

 

[OneBadCat]

6 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I had wanted to see CAP in an expanded role in the offense right up until we saw that this season when Stew was out. There were miscommunications right and left with him out there at least one of which I remember leading directly to a fumble. That's when I realized why he wasn't getting more run.

But how much of that was CAP and how much of it was lack experience and carries?

[LinvilleGorge]

2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Think of a RB in terms of an 8-year career.  Most do little after that.  After year 5, they start losing productivity by about 10% or more per year.   He will average in the low 3s per carry this season if he is not cut.

Hell no.

Over the past 2 seasons, Stew ran for a combined 1500 yards and made approximately $16m.  That comes to $10,666 per yard. 

 

I'll go a step further. Think of starting RBs in terms of their rookie contract. Let someone else pay him huge money on his next deal. Draft another one.

[PantherNation123]

14 hours ago, mjligon said:

Adams was literally the only person in our secondary who brought it every single week. He may be a dinosaur, but he isn’t going anywhere.

Really confused why people think this.  Adams was consistently torched this year in coverage, just about on par with Coleman.  Adams at this point is a serviceable backup, but he should be paid next to nothing IMO

[JARROD]

Jeremy Hill? 

 

[PantherNation123]

1 minute ago, JARROD said:

Jeremy Hill? 

 

If we paid him pretty much Vet minimum, then yes.  He hasn't looked good at all the past couple of years.

Also, seriously doubt he would take something around Vet minimum, so nah not Jeremy Hill

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'll go a step further. Think of starting RBs in terms of their rookie contract. Let someone else pay him huge money on his next deal. Draft another one.

I have said the same thing...

[JARROD]

Blount and Deon Lewis.

fixed.

[weyco2000]

12 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

Dumb is saying a player is going to get hurt again based on his previous injuries. 

I got news for you,  every player can get hurt any year in the NFL. That's the reality of it.

His age doesn't concern me, as centers can play well into their late 30's.

We only have him one more year, so you'll get your wish soon enough.

 

It would be dumb to...

A) Pay any center 10 million per year.

B) Pay an aging and injury prone player at any position 10 million per.

C) Let your Pro Bowl LG walk because some other guy deserves his big payday.

D) Keep players for any reason other than performance and worth. 

This may indeed be his last year, but it won’t be in Carolina.

[Icege]

CJ needs to go. JStew and RKalil should have contracts renegotiated.

I really don't give a poo what JStew made the last 2 years. That's irrelevant. What's relevant now is how much he'll cost going forward and I don't think he's worth $5M, but I also don't think that we have the money to go shopping for a new guy to pound the rock behind suspect OL blocking when we still have to pay Norwell and find Lotulelei's replacement.

I'd rather go into next season with JStew/CMC, cut CAP, and draft a rookie that can take a year to learn the playbook. JStew is excellent at picking up the blitz and didn't do awful when the OL was blocking so that he was not getting hit immediately after taking the handoff.

Kalil is important, but seeing how much time he missed this past season due to a neck injury that he's been coy about so that it not be targeted by opposing defenders, it doesn't make sense for him to get $10M only to likely miss time. Especially if we're able to draft Billy Price or James Daniels. 

[stirs]

Cut CJ, at this point, no redeeming qualities to occupy a roster spot

Cut Stewart, injuries and lack of production, the draft is loaded with RB's for very little

Cut Kalil, a good player when in the game, but that is the issue.  Paying 10 million for 4 games is probably what we are looking at as chronic injuries only get worse with age

Agree with OP, quit living in the past.  I would add to the list not bringing Peppers back.  He was totally ineffective unless we blitzed. 

Time to move on from these old guys and get some future regulars in here

[pantherclaw]

7 hours ago, weyco2000 said:

It would be dumb to...

A) Pay any center 10 million per year.

B) Pay an aging and injury prone player at any position 10 million per.

C) Let your Pro Bowl LG walk because some other guy deserves his big payday.

D) Keep players for any reason other than performance and worth. 

This may indeed be his last year, but it won’t be in Carolina.

You're fan perspective doesn't agree with most GM's.