Todd McShay Mock Draft 2.0: Panthers pick Christian Kirk.

[ncfan]

13 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

I'm surprised they have draft profiles out so early before the combine

Those comparisons you really have to take with a grain of salt

I mean Fitzpatrick compared to Budda Baker?

Darnold Still being compared to Luck?

 

And Kirk weakness is speed and seperation.  Whoever scout this is didnt watch a down of Kirk last year.  These are actually his strengths.  Heck he is probably the fastest/quick WR in the SEC and 99% of the scouts other than this guy project him to run in the 4.32-4.35 range

A good comparison for Kirk is Desean Jackson coming out of Cal

[CRA]

meh, I don't like that.   How many WRs does he have off the board at that point?  

I'm still holding out hope for Ridley

[Hoenheim]

38 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Those comparisons you really have to take with a grain of salt

I mean Fitzpatrick compared to Budda Baker?

Barkley Still being compared to Luck?

 

And Kirk weakness is speed and seperation.  Whoever scout this is didnt watch a down of Kirk last year.  These are actually his strengths.  Heck he is probably the fastest/quick WR in the SEC and 99% of the scouts other than this guy project him to run in the 4.32-4.35 range

Some more comparisons:

• Calvin Ridley : Marvin Harrison (VERY lofty comparison lol)
• Dante Pettis: T.J. Houshmandzadeh 
• Courtland Sutton: Muhsin Muhammad 
• Deon Cain : Roddie White
• Derrius Guice : Marshawn Lynch
• Sony Michel : Knowshon Moreno
• Nick Chubb : Alfred Morris
• Royce Freeman : Donta Foreman 

[The Huddler]

 

quicker than fast... small catch radius..  diesnt get separation...

 

if this is anything close to being accurate no thanks

 

go get a DE

 

Funch, Samuel, Olsen, CMC can hold down the fort. 

 

We need a passrush. We need a developed young guy ready to produce. Might take a year. Do it while we still have Peppers

[General_Purr]

He's basically an NFL style Curtis Samuel who won't get hurt as often or drop Cams fastballs.

I mean sure whatever. Its sad to see an actual game changer.. Fiztpatrick going to Tampa. Meanwhile we pray for Kurt Coleman and Mike Adams to be active every Sunday, then blame Worley for when the safeties can't catch up to any NFC south WR.

[The Huddler]

He sounds like a good possession/ route runner receiver

 

 

if we take a girst round WR I want an all around stud.   Undesputed WR#1

[Shocker]

I will wait till I see his 40 time but he looks plenty fast on tape.  Playmaker and no question we can use this dude.  Get him in the second and I am good with that.

[ncfan]

24 minutes ago, Shocker said:

I will wait till I see his 40 time but he looks plenty fast on tape.  Playmaker and no question we can use this dude.  Get him in the second and I am good with that.

this.

that writeup on him was terribly in inaccurate.

Crazy even saw a few people on ESPN even have him ahead of Ridley, one even stating he was the better route runner than Ridley 

 

 

The guy is Fast and damn quick.  One of the best WRs in college football at getting seperation.

He has been a WR full time lining up slot And outside.  Hes light years ahead of Samuel at route running and the route tree.

He has good hands and fast quick reaction with the hands as well.  You know what makes Antonio Brown so great, is his fast hands.  There was a nice piece on Brown on one of the networks highlighting this.  Stating its almost impossible for DBs to to guard as the DBs watch for the hands and he is so quick with them.

 

Kirk has those fast hands as well

http://es.pn/2ClNgz2 via @ESPN App http://es.pn/app

 

Kid played with at least a halfway decent QB and solid Offense.  He'd be going top 15

They didnt nickname him baby ODB for no reason.

 

 

 

[Icege]

Would prefer James Daniels

[LinvilleGorge]

4 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

The NFL.com player comparison for Saquon Barkley is Barry Sanders. LOL 

What a terrible comparison. Barkley is 230 pounds though he is very quick and fast for that weight. I'd say more along the lines of a Ladainian Tomlinson or Edgerrin James.

The guy looks like a can't miss NFL star, but the history of Penn State RB busts does give me pause.

[countryboi]

im ok with Christian Kirk but Anthony Miller has a similar skill set and could be had a bit later in the draft. 

[Shaqil915]

6 hours ago, Ronnie Bass said:

He's no better than Curtis Samuel, I think he was just a solid college receiver not super electrifying. Being a SEC guy I watched him a lot never stood out to me. He's a second or third rounder in my opinion. Panther's defense came in as oldest in the NFL at the beginning of the year, and in the last few weeks the secondary was the worst in the league. Defensive end and safety/corner(Worley sucks) are bigger needs. The defense is whats going to carry us. Kuechly even said got to get it back to 2015 form. 

I mean defense was great that year but it was our #1 Offense that put us over the top.... There needs to be like a balance or going offensive focused drafting because we already tried it leaning toward the defense.

[davos]

1 hour ago, countryboi said:

im ok with Christian Kirk but Anthony Miller has a similar skill set and could be had a bit later in the draft. 

Call me crazy but I view Miller as the 3rd best receiver behind Ridley & Sutton.  Miller is a true receiver who can line up flanker or slot.  He plays like he's 6'3 even though he's a hair under 6'.  The hand catching and route running is polished and he plays like a man on the mission.  Put him on the outside and he just gets past defenders and grabs it.  He took over games for Memphis.        

St. Brown is a mystery bag with huge potential, I do NOT like Washington, and I am very meh about Kirk.  Kirk seems well rounded and solid and all, but nothing above that ever shows.  He's a less explosive Samuel with more of a seasoned skill set.  We don't need that. 

[rayzor]

i'd be cool with it.

him and CMC would be the christian coalition.

fun times.