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Blank expects M. Ryan to accept a team friendly deal w/next contract

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Since this concerns our distinguished competition in the NFC South I thought I'd paste this and see what you guys think about Mr. Blanks position. I'm not going to post the entire article. I did take the time to post a couple of the highlights.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/02/06/arthur-blank-wants-matt-ryans-next-deal-to-be-friendly-to-the-team/

“I don’t care about the other quarterbacks’ movement,” Blank recently told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “What I care about is taking care of our quarterback in a way that’s respectful to him and in a way that is respectful to the franchise.”

“I’m excited that he wants to play longer. But we also have to balance it out and make sure we have enough salary to keep the other critical parts on the team around. You don’t win with one player. It’s not like golf. It’s the ultimate team sport, and you’ve got to have other pieces around him.”

“We have to approach it in a thoughtful way, and thoughtfully I think that Matt is the kind of quarterback and kind of person that will understand, at this point in his life, this is also about what is his legacy going to be,” Blank said. “He wants to win championships, and he wants to make sure the team is in an overall team position that we can compete for our own talent and compete for other free agents. Compete and pay well [for] the draft choices when they get their second contracts. He understands that.”

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Does Arthur Blank have a point? Are these QB contracts getting out of hand and hurting the competitive makeup of the teams? To date no QB with a $20 mil a year salary has won a Super Bowl

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It should be common sense once a qb gets that much money that the team will suffer. Cousins  potentially getting $30 mil is nuts but it's the nature of the beast really. 

For example: everything is good in Philly now but how's that dline going to look in 2 seasons when you have to pay Wentz top tier money.

The perfect storm situation is when you can pair a good young qb with a good to great defense. Seattle hit on it,  Philly did to a lesser extent, and the jags have a shot at doing the same (qb is still suspect tho) 

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At some point the QB bubble will bust. Of the final four teams this year only one had a true franchise QB. The days of mediocre QBs getting huge money have to end. You're hamstringing your franchise. If you have a true franchise QB pay him. If you're not totally sold on the guy let him walk and draft another one.

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37 minutes ago, jumpman910 said:

It should be common sense once a qb gets that much money that the team will suffer. Cousins  potentially getting $30 mil is nuts but it's the nature of the beast really. 

For example: everything is good in Philly now but how's that dline going to look in 2 seasons when you have to pay Wentz top tier money.

The perfect storm situation is when you can pair a good young qb with a good to great defense. Seattle hit on it,  Philly did to a lesser extent, and the jags have a shot at doing the same (qb is still suspect tho) 

It's a shame that it appears the only way to win titles is to have a young QB outperform his contract (ie underpay him) and pair him with a top defense, or over pay him and pair him with a defense that is stocked with players still on their rookie deals.

The salary cap has made it almost impossible to build balance on both sides of the ball and allow a team that drafts well to keep most of the important pieces intact. It doesn't help matters when current agents and QB's expect almost 1/5 of the team's cap go to one player.

I checked out Brady's cap hits on Spotrac for the past 3 times the Pat's made it to the SB. In 2016. It was 13,764,705 (9.32% of the cap) This past season (2017) it was $14,000,000 (8.55%). When the beat Seattle in 2014 he had a  cap hit of 14,800,000 (11.02). This year it goes up to 22,000,000, but even then his cap hit will be right around 12%-13%. Is it any wonder the Pat's are in the AFC title game every year? Matt Stafford's 26,500,000 in 2018 will take up over 19% of the Detroit's cap this year.

I agree a good/great QB is going to be the team's highest player, but like Blank pointed out it's a team game. If the Cap is only rising incrementally each season or staying flat, these high QB salaries are going ruin any hope of building a team that compete for a title year end and year out. 

 

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2 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Math isn’t right. All caps are the same, so how is 26.5M 19% and 22M 12-13%. Stafford is 20% more so if Brady’s numbers are correct Stafford would be 14.4-15.6%. That said Brady’s contracts have absolutely helped the Pats out. There’s some under the table payments going on there.

I just pulled the numbers off of the Spotrac site (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/detroit-lions/cap/)

(http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-england-patriots/cap/)

It looks like the cap for 2018 is going to be 178,000,000. After doing the math myself I came up with something similar to your number. I wonder if their factoring something else into their calculations.

I think we can both agree on the last sentence of your post.

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23 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

At some point the QB bubble will bust. Of the final four teams this year only one had a true franchise QB. The days of mediocre QBs getting huge money have to end. You're hamstringing your franchise. If you have a true franchise QB pay him. If you're not totally sold on the guy let him walk and draft another one.

Barry Sanders was one of the best runningbacks of all time, but Detroit could never afford to pay for a solid offensive line because they were paying Sanders so much.

Likewise, the Colts for years paid loads of money to Peyton Manning while fielding defenses that couldn't stop a high school team.  the one year they hit on a good defense, they won it all but never went back.  Meanwhile, Brady was taking less money and the Patriots were winning championships every other year.

The formula of paying one or two superstar players a ridiculous percentage of your cap while being stingy nearly everywhere else just doesn't win championships.  That's one reason why teams who hit it big in drafts have done well, because they have star players on rookie contracts.

 

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6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Barry Sanders was one of the best runningbacks of all time, but Detroit could never afford to pay for a solid offensive line because they were paying Sanders so much.

Likewise, the Colts for years paid loads of money to Peyton Manning while fielding defenses that couldn't stop a high school team.  the one year they hit on a good defense, they won it all but never went back.  Meanwhile, Brady was taking less money and the Patriots were winning championships every other year.

The formula of paying one or two superstar players a ridiculous percentage of your cap while being stingy nearly everywhere else just doesn't win championships.  That's one reason why teams who hit it big in drafts have done well, because they have star players on rookie contracts.

 

It's also why I'm a huge fan of letting star walk for a cheaper FA and signing. Norwell. How many times have we seen DTs disappear in huge games and avg QB's win championships because of no name olinemen. I'm sure star will cash in big somewhere and play only two downs while doing it. I just hope it's not the Panthers. 

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

 

3 minutes ago, Snake said:

It's also why I'm a huge fan of letting star walk for a cheaper FA and signing. Norwell. How many times have we seen DTs disappear in huge games and avg QB's win championships because of no name olinemen. I'm sure star will cash in big somewhere and play only two downs while doing it. I just hope it's not the Panthers. 

 

I agree with you on Starr if he's expecting a big payday. Thing is, I'm in favor of letting Norwell walk too.

Check out Spotrac's projected market value for Andrew Norwell below.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/andrew-norwell-14802/market-value/

We can't possibly afford to pay him this much money with all of the holes on our team.

Calculated Market Value

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  • 5 yrs, $58,924,976
  • Avg. Salary: $11,784,995
  • NFL Rank: #66
  • G Rank: #2
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