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I hope NBC fires Collinsworth

GoobyPls

By GoobyPls,
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2 hours ago, Yaboychris28 said:

Ertz took 3 steps, made an obvious football move, reached over the white line but Collinsworth still didn't think it was a touchdown. I was dumb founded how moronic he was making himself sound

The thing is these calls have went the other way in some games. Sex Bryant was a catch if this one is a catch. These refs need to get it together. I agree that ertz was a catch Clement is a catch if you believe that the player that swipe at the ball did not cause a bobble and it look like to me it may have affected him while trying to tuck it in but could have gone either way. I believe these games are often biased by refs and the league allows refs to get away with more than they should or is this the way the league wants it?

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1 hour ago, rodeo said:

The rule is 2 steps and a football maneuver. He would have had to not take 2 of the steps he took (which would have meant he didn't cross the goal line anyways because he started from 5 yards away)

That.... is not the rule. Unless you're talking about two feet down while going out of bounds, there is no rule for 2 steps.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2017-nfl-rulebook/#article-7.-player-possession

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Note 1: A player who goes to the ground in the process of attempting to secure possession of a loose ball (with or without contact by an opponent) must maintain control of the ball until after his contact with the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, there is no possession. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, it is a catch, interception, or recovery. A player is considered to be going to the ground if he does not remain upright long enough to demonstrate that he is clearly a runner.

He was clearly established as a runner by way of turning upfield, taking multiple steps, and attempting to hurdle a defender. This note does not apply.

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Note 2: If a player goes to the ground out of bounds (with or without contact by an opponent) in the process of attempting to secure possession of a loose ball at the sideline, he must maintain complete and continuous control of the ball until after his initial contact with the ground, or there is no possession.

He was neither going to the ground nor going out of bounds while attempting to secure possession. This note does not apply.

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Note 3: If a player has control of the ball, a slight movement of the ball will not be considered loss of possession. He must lose control of the ball in order to rule that there has been a loss of possession.

This applies to the first "controversial" touchdown. He did not lose control of the ball. The touchdown satisfied the rule as written.

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A catch is made when a player inbounds secures possession of a pass, kick, or fumble that is in flight

OK, so on both TDs, possession was secured.

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Note 1: It is a catch if, in the process of attempting to catch the ball, a player secures control of the ball prior to it touching the ground, and that control is maintained during and after the ball has touched the ground.

Note 2: In the field of play, if a catch has been completed, and there is contact by a defender causing the ball to come loose before the player who caught the loose ball is down by contact, it is a fumble, and the ball remains alive. It is also a fumble if the action occurs in the end zone being defended by the team of the player who caught the loose ball. If the action occurs in the opponent's end zone, it is a touchdown or a touchback.

One could argue Note 1. However, possession had already been secured. This was demonstrated by what I said earlier - turned upfield, took several steps, and attempted to hurdle a defender. The receiver did not go to the ground while attempting to secure the catch. He went to the ground after the catch had been secured and he jumped headfirst into the endzone. At that point, Section 39 of the rulebook comes into play:

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Section 39 - Touchdown

It is a Touchdown if any part of the ball is on, above, or behind the opponent’s goal line while legally in possession of an inbounds player, provided it is not a touchback.

 

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5 hours ago, rodeo said:

The rule is 2 steps and a football maneuver. He would have had to not take 2 of the steps he took (which would have meant he didn't cross the goal line anyways because he started from 5 yards away)

A dive right after the catch, with one step, would've constituted a "play through the ground", so if the ball hit the ground it wouldn't be a catch. Based on what we saw this season, with Thielen against Carolina in the corner, and Jesse James ball hitting the ground, this call wasn't black and white. 

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9 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

I cant stand his freakin voice dude

 

 

is there a way we as fans could get him fired?

If receive history is any indication, just have a woman (or guy for that matter) say that Collinsworth molested them.  Seems proof isn't required and just the accusation is enough to have him shown the door. 

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From the Enquirer at Philly dot Com

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by Rob Tornoe, STAFF WRITER  @robtornoe |  [email protected]

Ahead of the Super Bowl, NBC’s Cris Collinsworth assured me that he didn’t hate the Eagles.

He just hates it when touchdown calls go their way.

After the officials confirmed that a spectacular catch by Eagles running back Corey Clement (and an even better throw by quarterback Nick Foles) was indeed a touchdown, Collinsworth apparently couldn’t accept that the call went a Bird’s way, returning to the replay repeatedly even after the officials confirmed the Eagles touchdown.

“I would have called that incomplete,” Collinsworth said

I hated Cris on Inside the NFL and even more as an announcer....

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